He lacks the experience that the Africans have to be a threat in a sit and kick international 1500. Needed to be in 2nd or 3rd position with 400 to go to have a shot at medaling. He will learn....
He lacks the experience that the Africans have to be a threat in a sit and kick international 1500. Needed to be in 2nd or 3rd position with 400 to go to have a shot at medaling. He will learn....
Why do you need to be in 2nd or 3rd? Don't you just need to be close enough to be able to pass by the finish line?
Amine Laâlou finished last and he is a 1:43/3:29 guy. Clearly Matt is a bronze medalist at a world champinship...that race was definitely a tactical one.
Haha, YO (super cereal) wrote:
He lacks the experience that the Africans have to be a threat in a sit and kick international 1500.
a statement this dumb deserves an insta-ban...
"lacks the experience..."
Like when he medaled in the WC's a year ago?
Centrowitz did not medal today. He did not even place 5th. But the same can be said of Silas Kiplagat, who also is not lacking for experience, talent, or hardware.
So before you stand up on your soap box, proclaiming yourself the prophet of American distance running, think a little more about what you're talking about, then consider opening your mouth.
Centro is young and learning , its all money in the bank each championship he runs . Big picture , going through a round , racing against the guys he may eventually race against in London , great prep.
Twitched wrote:
Why do you need to be in 2nd or 3rd? Don't you just need to be close enough to be able to pass by the finish line?
That's not so easy indoors. It appears that Iguider almost led the whole race start to finish. Turkish guy had the lead for 2 laps, then Iguider outkicked him to win. Silas Kiplagat also was way back, just in front of Centrowitz.
Lots of pushing and shoving. Kiplagat and Laalu stunk it up as well. I would say the Turkish guy should be DQ'd. His tactics near the end was questionable.
Meh,
Look at what happened to another young rising star who left college for the pros. Kirani James did about as well as Centro did.
Sometimes you win, sometimes you make the final and get your butt whupped. They'll both be back.
This is like 2007/2008 all over again. Our best guys ran well in '07 and then stunk it up for the 2008 Olympics. That seems to be what's happening here. Everybody blew their load in 2011 and looks like sh*t so far this year.
I realize it's only March, but it's only March for all these other runners who are smacking our guys around, too.
Didn't see the race. But remember, Centro only finished 4th in the NCAAs just one year and look how he ended up the year. The way I see it, he is looking much better then he did at this point last season and that bodes well for how good he will be come August.
I don't believe Centro really considers himself an Indoor racer and it is hard to beat some of those small compact African fellows on a 200 meter track with tight turns.
I believe he will be there when it counts. I think he will be going into the Olympics with a 3:30ish time under his belt and will be a serious medal contender.
He ran a tactically solid race but with 300 to go just didn't have the gas. March of an Olympic year, not so bad.
OP is right. Everyone knows that in order to be ready for the Olympics you August you need to be 100% sharp and race ready in early March. Centro clearly is not the guy to get it done for the United States.
Leo was wise to stay home and train. I'm an NCAA coach so you know where my attention is this weekend (I'm in Boise and not viewing any video of WIC), but this does NOT seem to be a final suited to Centro's or Leo's race tactics. Lagat would have been a different story.
Centro would have been better off not going as well. He was much more likely to get injured than to win. You HAVE to sit up near the front like Lagat and not let people go by you: Otherwise, you might as well stay home.
It was a strange race in general really. No one really took the pace, lots of guys were swinging wide, position changes all over the place. Nevertheless those last couple laps were really exciting.
coach d wrote:
Leo was wise to stay home and train. I'm an NCAA coach so you know where my attention is this weekend (I'm in Boise and not viewing any video of WIC), but this does NOT seem to be a final suited to Centro's or Leo's race tactics. Lagat would have been a different story.
Centro would have been better off not going as well. He was much more likely to get injured than to win. You HAVE to sit up near the front like Lagat and not let people go by you: Otherwise, you might as well stay home.
I refuse to believe you are actually an NCAA coach. The majority of your posts reek of wannabe, never was, pseudo fan who really hates runners. If you were an actual coach beyond the middle school level you would realize that this is this man's job. He made A LOT of money by going to World Indoors and making the final. It amounted to a hard workout for him running 2:11 through 800 and then sprinting for awhile. I will give you credit as troll extraordinaire though because as asinine as you are, I still take your rambling serious enough to reply. NCAA coach my ass.
Koppenberg wrote:
Kirani James did about as well as Centro did.
Sometimes you win, sometimes you make the final and get your butt whupped. They'll both be back.
James got completely screwed over getting lane 1. I have almost no doubt that if got lane 6 he would have won.
It has to be said wrote:
Lots of pushing and shoving. Kiplagat and Laalu stunk it up as well. I would say the Turkish guy should be DQ'd. His tactics near the end was questionable.
Yeah, I thought that about the Turkish guy too, pushing the others all over the place, he almost pushed Iguider over at one point and then looked like very deliberately trying to barge Iguider over again as he went past at then end. Is the only reason he wasnt DQed because of the home crowd?
HS coach2 wrote:
I refuse to believe you are actually an NCAA coach. The majority of your posts reek of wannabe, never was, pseudo fan who really hates runners. If you were an actual coach beyond the middle school level you would realize that this is this man's job. He made A LOT of money by going to World Indoors and making the final. It amounted to a hard workout for him running 2:11 through 800 and then sprinting for awhile. I will give you credit as troll extraordinaire though because as asinine as you are, I still take your rambling serious enough to reply. NCAA coach my ass.
Whomever you really are, you were exposed as a total jerk yesterday when in the thread about Lagat you talked about "coaching" runners to run over and trip other competitors. No real coach ever says something like that.
Just another Oregon whiny brat, I take it.