Just wondering if anybody has seen the race, and whether or not Rupp needed to demonstrate any sort of top-end speed or acceleration that he couldn't produce.
Was this another "training run" for him?
Just wondering if anybody has seen the race, and whether or not Rupp needed to demonstrate any sort of top-end speed or acceleration that he couldn't produce.
Was this another "training run" for him?
Thetes a description of the race on the homepage.
I think 800m in 2:04, 3rd lap was a 56ish, then he finished in 3:43?
So Rupp had a 2:04 800 warmup into a 1:39 last 700 meters on a 200 meter track. Looks like he gave it all he could. Not sure how anyone could construe this as a training run. Looks like he was racing at top end.
Lets have Tyson Gay run the 800 at worlds and then blast him for not having the endurance for not making finals.
Rupp is a 10k guy not a miler. He was racing milers. He should have had no chance what so ever to make finals. He was actually pretty close to doing so.
Sprintgeezer wrote:
Just wondering if anybody has seen the race, and whether or not Rupp needed to demonstrate any sort of top-end speed or acceleration that he couldn't produce.
Does one really need to see a video to know how the 5-10k specialist's race went down in a tactical 1500 m?
sgh wrote:
Lets have Tyson Gay run the 800 at worlds and then blast him for not having the endurance for not making finals.
Rupp is a 10k guy not a miler. He was racing milers. He should have had no chance what so ever to make finals. He was actually pretty close to doing so.
Not sure what you are looking at. I haven't seen a single post on this thread that could be reasonably interpreted as "blasting" Rupp for his performance. Actually it looks like he did quite well, all things considered.
dude,
The OP was asking if Rupp just couldn't produce the top end speed to compete. It would be akin to Jeremy Wariner in the open 100m and asking if he didnt have the top end speed to compete. Of course he doesn't that is why he runs the 4. If Rupp was world class 1500 guy, he would be racing that not the 10k.
It was a stupid question that was only asked to incite said response. I.E. a "troll" type post.
No, it wasn't a trolling attempt.
I was thinking about in light of his alleged 10.9 flying 100m, and the suggestions some posters had that he actually has the acceleration needed to match moves that will be made in the likely tactical Olympic 10,000m.
I personally don't think that he does, and I was wondering if this race sheds any light on the issue, since a 1500 seems to me to be a good opportunity to try out some move-matching acceleration.
Not trolling.
Sprintgeezer wrote:
No, it wasn't a trolling attempt.
I was thinking about in light of his alleged 10.9 flying 100m, and the suggestions some posters had that he actually has the acceleration needed to match moves that will be made in the likely tactical Olympic 10,000m.
I personally don't think that he does, and I was wondering if this race sheds any light on the issue, since a 1500 seems to me to be a good opportunity to try out some move-matching acceleration.
Not trolling.
And thus, Mr sgh, you have been proven wrong.
Rupp is not a 1500 meter runner. However, getting 3:40 1500 speed can only help him in longer distance events. It will him overcome his sometimes sluggish kick.
Sprintgeezer wrote:
No, it wasn't a trolling attempt.
I was thinking about in light of his alleged 10.9 flying 100m, and the suggestions some posters had that he actually has the acceleration needed to match moves that will be made in the likely tactical Olympic 10,000m.
I personally don't think that he does, and I was wondering if this race sheds any light on the issue, since a 1500 seems to me to be a good opportunity to try out some move-matching acceleration.
Not trolling.
He could have good closing speed when compared to other 10K guys though. I don't think anyone expected Galen to be able to close well when racing against 1500 guys.
Sprintgeezer wrote:
No, it wasn't a trolling attempt.
I was thinking about in light of his alleged 10.9 flying 100m, and the suggestions some posters had that he actually has the acceleration needed to match moves that will be made in the likely tactical Olympic 10,000m.
I personally don't think that he does, and I was wondering if this race sheds any light on the issue, since a 1500 seems to me to be a good opportunity to try out some move-matching acceleration.
Not trolling.
10.9 with a rolling start and an egg timer is meaningless
so partly right, if by tactical you mean slow with a sprint. If he made the tactics he might do it. Put in 60 with four laps to go, open a gap and keep it or at least only allow 2 to catch him. He has the ability to do it
His tactic in the 1500m should have been flat out from the gun and go for a pr at least Even a fast 800m is not going to drop a good miler
Sprintgeezer wrote:
No, it wasn't a trolling attempt.
I was thinking about in light of his alleged 10.9 flying 100m, and the suggestions some posters had that he actually has the acceleration needed to match moves that will be made in the likely tactical Olympic 10,000m.
Based on your mile speed, what is your mile time, and how do you think you'd do in a tactical Olympic 10,000m?
I expect a serious answer, something like that your speed would carry you to the victory.
Based on the splits given on the front page, I don't think it was an issue of lack of acceleration, but of lack of mile speed. From 800-1200 was 55.62, followed by a 41.79 last 300. So the last 700m was 1:37.41, which is 55.6 pace. The last 700 was at about Rupp's 800 pace.
He finished one second back from Laalou (3:29 PR) who grabbed the last qualifier in the heat.
5th out of 12.
Looks like Rupp competed well.
Kiplagat was also 5th in his heat but advanced on time.
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And thus, Mr sgh, you have been proven wrong.[/quote]
and if that be, that I'll admit I was wrong. It does appear however, I am not the only one that feels this way.
I do want to say that I would guess that guys like Centro can run under 11.0 in the 100 FAT. I was an average D2 800 guy and I could, so a real runner like these gents I am sure could. So Rupp would be considered on the slow end in terms of foot speed for a miler. I was actually expecting far worse from Rupp in this race.
Case in point lets look at two kickers- Centro and Bekele. Who would you take in the open 100?
J.R. wrote:
Based on your mile speed, what is your mile time, and how do you think you'd do in a tactical Olympic 10,000m?
I expect a serious answer, something like that your speed would carry you to the victory.
-3648/10
That was just plain pathetic.
Personally, I'm impressed. He's not a miler, at least compared to the top milers, but he ran hard, pushed the pace, and got a PR.
That's a good sign going into outdoors where he'll be competing at the distances he specializes in. I see nothing to criticize. Good for Rupp.
Sprintgeezer wrote:
No, it wasn't a trolling attempt.
I was thinking about in light of his alleged 10.9 flying 100m, and the suggestions some posters had that he actually has the acceleration needed to match moves that will be made in the likely tactical Olympic 10,000m.
Based on your 100 speed, what is your mile time, and how do you think you'd do in a tactical Olympic 10,000m?
I expect a serious answer, something like that your speed would carry you to the victory.
Please don't mention a 1500m PR in a race that he has now run just twice that converts much slower than his mile PR.