I was kind of curious as to how fast a miler has been that you've seen who can't break 2:00? Is the limit 4:15? Someone who runs 4:14.9 should definitely be able to go under 2:00 right?
I was kind of curious as to how fast a miler has been that you've seen who can't break 2:00? Is the limit 4:15? Someone who runs 4:14.9 should definitely be able to go under 2:00 right?
I ran 3.53 1500 and never broke 2.00 that year, tried a few times and had 2 2.00.0 but didn't break it. I had run 1.57 a few years before, and prob had a second or too to knock of that at the time, but i was really so slow. 1500/mile is about strength not speed.
There was a guy in Washington a couple years ago that now runs at Stanford that ran about 4:11 and couldn't break 2:00 in the same season. I believe he had broken 2:00 a couple years before, but when he did he was a 4:18 guy
Based on my experience, you are correct. I ran 4:16 for a Mile and and 3:58 for 1500 and did not break 2:00.
On the other hand, I ran 2:00.1 when my mile PR was 4:26. Whether I "should have" broken 2 is another story, but I never did. It is a haunting failure that will shadow me to my grave.
Don't be silly. No one has come close to 2:00. Hicham has the WR in 3:43.00.
why the what wrote:
Don't be silly. No one has come close to 2:00. Hicham has the WR in 3:43.00.
damn. beat me to it.
My sophmore year of college I ran 4:12.0 but could never crack 2, despite many, many attempts.
I have a PR of 3:49.3 for 1500m, and ran 4:07.6 for a mile indoors, but my fastest 800m was 2:01.4 (and 400m was 57.8). These were run my senior year in college, except for the mile which was the year after. I wouldn't say I "couldn't" break 2:00--but never did. Being that my events were more the 5 & 10, I raced the 800 only occasionally, a few times on relays (where my best was 2:02.)
why the what wrote:
Don't be silly. No one has come close to 2:00. Hicham has the WR in 3:43.00.
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How is that possible? I ran 4:26 as a senior in HS and ran 2:03 in a dual meet, on a dirt track, during a heavy training phase (no tapering) of the my track season.
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Profit!
ChubsyUbsy wrote:
On the other hand, I ran 2:00.1 when my mile PR was 4:26. Whether I "should have" broken 2 is another story, but I never did. It is a haunting failure that will shadow me to my grave.
I LOL'd.
long run wrote:
I ran 4:07.6 for a mile indoors, but my fastest 800m was 2:01.4 (and 400m was 57.8). These were run my senior year in college, except for the mile which was the year after. I wouldn't say I "couldn't" break 2:00--but never did. Being that my events were more the 5 & 10, I raced the 800 only occasionally, a few times on relays (where my best was 2:02.)
This really would make no sense. Nobody is so aerobic/slow twitch that they could only run 2:01 for 800m yet be able to average 2:03 per 800m over 1600m. Of course, in fairness you threw in some disclaimers. I presume the 2:01 800m you ran was your second or third race of the day, or that when you ran it you were not yet anywhere in the vicinity of running 4:07 yet, or something like that. A 4:07 miler (indoors at that) should be able to run at the very least 1:53 (and that's for the more long distance type).
long run wrote:
I have a PR of 3:49.3 for 1500m, and ran 4:07.6 for a mile indoors, but my fastest 800m was 2:01.4 (and 400m was 57.8). These were run my senior year in college, except for the mile which was the year after. I wouldn't say I "couldn't" break 2:00--but never did. Being that my events were more the 5 & 10, I raced the 800 only occasionally, a few times on relays (where my best was 2:02.)
What are your 5 and 10 prs? I would imagine at least 29:00 and 14:00 and probably much faster.
When I was a 2:00 runner I was at 4:15 for the mile. At 1:57 I was 4:09. Eventually I improved to 4:03 but I was also a 5000/10,000 guy didn't have to many chances to work on my 800 which stayed at 1:57.
I think Bill Rodgers only ran 2:00 for the 800 but ran a mile at 4:08-4:10.
Ed Mipson would be up there.