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Anyone?
Yep, we will see someone do 1:39 and 3:25 and this person is already alive.
I predict that if we see someone go sub 1:40, we'll see someone in the 1:30s.
gypsy wrote:
Yep, we will see someone do 1:39 and 3:25 and this person is already alive.
Both may happen but the same person will not do both. An 8/15 guy hasn't ruled in a long time (30 years?) and that trend will not reverse.
Just as soon as some 44 s 400 guys step up to the 8 and train appropriately.
letsthink.com wrote:
I predict that if we see someone go sub 1:40, we'll see someone in the 1:30s.
Or at least someone in the 1:39s.
Sure, under 1:40? Why not. I never thought we'd see anyone under 2:05 in the marathon, but with the drugs available today...
The answer is yes wrote:
Just as soon as some 44 s 400 guys step up to the 8 and train appropriately.
Yes, a train would be an appropriate way to break 1:40. Some trains are capable of traveling at 350mph, which would easily shatter the world record for the 800m.
Oh, did you mean the human trains appropriately? Subject-verb agreement would have made this so much easier! I wouldn't have had to wikipedia the speed of high-speed rail!!1!
Rene the Cart wrote:
The answer is yes wrote:Just as soon as some 44 s 400 guys step up to the 8 and train appropriately.
Yes, a train would be an appropriate way to break 1:40. Some trains are capable of traveling at 350mph, which would easily shatter the world record for the 800m.
Oh, did you mean the human trains appropriately? Subject-verb agreement would have made this so much easier! I wouldn't have had to wikipedia the speed of high-speed rail!!1!
I don't understand what he said wrong
Yes I have seen the future and that man is Wariner
:|} wrote:
I don't understand what he said wrong
He didn't say anything wrong, his subject/verb agreement was correct. Rene the Cart either misread what was written, or is himself a bumbling moron.
I'm banking on the latter.
The answer is yes wrote:
Just as soon as some 44 s 400 guys step up to the 8 and train appropriately.
Yeah, I mean if they can do a 44 two 49s would feel like jogging!
You might be right. I cant imagine anyone off hand who could do that. I can think of someone who could do the 8 so im pretty convinced if one can then there must be others. FOr the double. Sure when someone does the next MD breakthrough.
He didn't say anything wrong. Rene got dropped when he/she was little, don't mind him/her.
The talent is there there need to be better pacemakers though. I guarantee that we would see a sub 1:40 if we had a pacemaker that took the field all the way through 600m in 1:13-14. The world records for all the distance races could be broken if they were paced 600m for 800, 1200m for 1500, 2400 for 3000m, 4000 for 5000m, and 6000m for 10000m. Elites should help other elites to pace that can last longer like Noah Ngeny helped El Guerrouj get the 1500m record, and then all the records could easily fall
Guys--plural. Guys train, a guy trains.
Hmmm - that's 1.01s off the current WR. It took 10 years to get from 1:44.3 (Snell, 1962) to 1:43.4 (Juantorena, 1977), 2 years for the next second (Coe, 1:42.4, 1979) but 18 years for the next second after that (Kipketer, 1:41.24, 1997). The fact that it's taken another 13 years for Rudisha to shave 0.23 seconds off suggests that the 800m record might be reaching human limits, at least with current training etc.
I think we will eventually see a sub 1:40, but the current rate of improvement suggests it could be many years. If it falls in the next few years, then whoever does it will probably be the middle distance equivalent of Bolt or Beamon.
As far as I recall, the last time the same guys dominated both the 8 & the 15 was in the Coe / Ovett / Cram days - so yeah, almost 30 years ago.
Not sure if it means much but according to a lot of comparison charts, the 800m world record is somewhat weak compared to adjacent distances.
Regardless, I don't see it as ridiculously unlikely that Rudisha ultimately goes under 1:40.
He's what, 22, maybe 23? If he stays healthy and motivated (the latter possibly being hard if he stays so dominant)then I don't see why he can't go under 1:40 in 4 to 6 years from now.
How many guys set world records in the 800 at age 28-29? I'm guessing....wait for it......0. Rudisha is in his prime. If he's going to break 1:40 it will have to be in the next 1-2 years.
ShaduS wrote:
Not sure if it means much but according to a lot of comparison charts, the 800m world record is somewhat weak compared to adjacent distances.
Regardless, I don't see it as ridiculously unlikely that Rudisha ultimately goes under 1:40.
He's what, 22, maybe 23? If he stays healthy and motivated (the latter possibly being hard if he stays so dominant)then I don't see why he can't go under 1:40 in 4 to 6 years from now.
Michael Johnson took down the 400 at 31.