Major props to Colorado for the 3rd place finish.
Major props to Colorado for the 3rd place finish.
Lots of slower mileage and base work, sustained tempo runs, very little hard interval work until the last few weeks of the season, and good racing strategy.
Really think it's as simple as that. He also recruits pretty intelligently. Prefers kids that run a lot slower on 40mpw than FL top ten guys who run 70-100 in HS. Didn't even try to recruit some of the top CO guys a couple years back because he didn't think their room for improvement was high.
V6 wrote:
Didn't even try to recruit some of the top CO guys a couple years back because he didn't think their room for improvement was high.
Calling huge BS on this.
haha YO wrote:
V6 wrote:Didn't even try to recruit some of the top CO guys a couple years back because he didn't think their room for improvement was high.
Calling huge BS on this.
Sorry I'm not in right now.
haha YO wrote:
Calling huge BS on this.
Don't need you to believe it, bud. I know about ten runners personally who were phenomenal runners in the last 8 years. Many of them FL finalists or borderline FL qualifiers, not at all recruited by CU.
it's the other way arounf they weren't even looking at CU
V6 wrote:
Don't need you to believe it, bud. I know about ten runners personally who were phenomenal runners in the last 8 years. Many of them FL finalists or borderline FL qualifiers, not at all recruited by CU.
Name them and then provide how you know that Whetmore didn't recruit them because he thought they had limited future potential because they ran high mileage.
You do realize Ritz went to Colorado and ran mega mileage in high school, right? Whetmore/any D1 coach is going to recruit the best athletes he can, when they are in state that is a bonus.
Again, BS.
I agree that the guy needs to prove his point, but...
It's Wetmore and not Whetmore
Ritz didn't run mega mileage in high school. He ran what many of the top runners are running right now.
Goucher, Torres brothers, Ritz, Tebo -- do those names ring a bell? Some of those guys definitely ran mileage in high school. I understand what you're saying, but Wetmore's recruiting sometimes leaves one scratching their head. For example, he showed no interest in Kevin Williams (CO hs, now Oklahoma) who ran 70 mpw, yet he recruits Moussa who reportedly ran 85+ mpw. Go figure. It sure seems like Williams would have fit in well at CU and I know he was interested in being a Buff.
I'm not arguing that Wetmore isn't a great coach, but he's had plenty of kids that haven't done squat once they get to Boulder.
riley stops wrote:
I agree that the guy needs to prove his point, but...
It's Wetmore and not Whetmore
Ritz didn't run mega mileage in high school. He ran what many of the top runners are running right now.
He ran 90 or so mpw. Mega mileage might not be the right word but it was definitly high. Much higher than what the guy was suggesting Whetmore would look at.
I have no dog in this race, but it is fair to point out that your exmples of his recruits are from 10 years ago. Just like the training has changed since RWTBs and the Goucher years, it is safe to assume that recruiting may have changed, as well.
I admire what he does if for any reason than he doesn't just go get a few Kenyans and be done with it.
Way to go Wetmore.
tyun wrote:
For example, he showed no interest in Kevin Williams (CO hs, now Oklahoma) who ran 70 mpw, yet he recruits Moussa who reportedly ran 85+ mpw. Go figure. It sure seems like Williams would have fit in well at CU and I know he was interested in being a Buff.
Moussa was a national level blue chip recruit. Of course Whetmore is going to go after him, everyone is.
Wetmore not "Whetmore"
You are dumb.
Wetmore's recruiting has been up and down the past handful of years, mostly because he hasn't had a solid assistant coaching really helping him recruit. With Billy Nelson taking up much of the recruiting now, expect CU to start getting more prep talent.
He floggs his guys with high mileage, altitude training and a lot of strength based training. Whomever is standing makes the team and usually runs well in Cross Country. Check their track results, very poor in comparison because the guys are flogged to death.
It's not a bad idea when you're not getting a ton of blue chip talent, not rocket science though.
I'm not trying to be critical of Wetmore, but stating that Moussa was a high mileage/blue chip recruit - exactly the opposite of what the earlier poster stated was Wetmore's preference.
Nelson ran more than Ritz,
who ran more than Rupp,
who ran more than Fernandez,
who ran more than Verbicas.
tyun wrote:
I'm not trying to be critical of Wetmore, but stating that Moussa was a high mileage/blue chip recruit - exactly the opposite of what the earlier poster stated was Wetmore's preference.
I think we are on the same side, V6 is an idiot who doesn't know what he is talking about.
It sounds like from your posts Colorado has a lot of injured runners and barely fielded a cross country team.
So who was injured this fall for Colorado?
And I thought they did well in track, Barringer, Goucher, Ritz, Torres, Emma, Shayne, Alan, Slatts, Billy, you know, and all of those sucky track performances over the years by past Colorado track runners.
Thanks for setting everyone straight.
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