Is there a running forum where people actually know wtf they're talking about?

plenty of knowledgeable people post here. The problem is the trolls, and there is no way to get rid of them without switching to something like vbulletin and heavily moderating the board.

no

Are you just a complainer or have you been helping spread the good knowledge that you're referring to? What are some examples of people not knowing what they are talking about? What is a threshold workout and how should it be done? What's periodization?

Tinman's is good and track and field news forums. A lot drier though. Come back around here when you get bored of lifeless, academic sounding conversations...at least for the occasional laugh.

Your complaint simply begs the question. You assume the correctness of everything that you think you know about training and judge everything else to be ignorance.

Say come to gyu wrote:

Are you just a complainer or have you been helping spread the good knowledge that you're referring to? What are some examples of people not knowing what they are talking about? What is a threshold workout and how should it be done? What's periodization?

I have tried. Those who are ignorant have become so numerous here they drown out those who give good advice. I've read and studied all those I mentioned and more. I've trained under three different coaches of varying successes over the years as well as under myself and have experimented with different training methods. I've had teammates and friends who were everything from 47s 400m runners to 2:12 marathoners to USA xc team members. And I really don't think that's too uncommon for anyone who's decent and has been in the sport a while. What I've found is that successful programs and runners (almost) all train pretty similarly. There are no secrets. We know how to properly train, or at least those who have their wits about them, read a bit and pay attention to training do. The stuff I see posted here frequently is about as backasswords and just plain stupid as you can get. I just don't get it.

And what's the point of coming to a forum to discuss what's already in those books? Maybe some clarification or personal experiences, but anything else is rewriting them and defeats their purpose.

redux wrote:

And what's the point of coming to a forum to discuss what's already in those books? Maybe some clarification or personal experiences, but anything else is rewriting them and defeats their purpose.

Wrong. You might read the old Lydiard vs Martin and Coe vs Daniels thread.

Well, you seem to have all the answers. What do you want to talk about then?

Didn't I say "clarification"?

sick of idiots wrote:

redux wrote:

And what's the point of coming to a forum to discuss what's already in those books? Maybe some clarification or personal experiences, but anything else is rewriting them and defeats their purpose.

Wrong. You might read the old Lydiard vs Martin and Coe vs Daniels thread.

Ok but answer my questions and drop some knowledge on us instead of complaining. I really am interested to know the right way to train. Let's hear it! This is your chance

rrweassdf wrote:

plenty of knowledgeable people post here. The problem is the trolls, and there is no way to get rid of them without switching to something like vbulletin and heavily moderating the board.

I've noticed a lot of boards are switching to a log-in via Facebook. There are obviously lots of drawbacks to that, nor is it foolproof. But it would surely go a very long way to cleaning this place up if folks had to put a name and a face along with their posts. Nothing wrong with a little personal responsibility, right? It's as though LetsRun is encouraging trolls the way things are set up now.

Look. I run intervals 5 times a week and have managed to almost break 20 minutes in the 5K.

I know what I'm talking about.

sick of idiots wrote:

This place used to be really good for training advice. There seemed to be a lot of knowledgable people here who had both experience and who had spent a good amount of time reading. Now training threads get posted and the majority of replies are so damn ignorant it's embarrassing. Does anyone read Lydiard, Martin and Coe, Daniels, Noakes, Pftizinger, or training logs from successful runners any more? Geezus, it's gotten bad. It doesn't seem people here even understand what a threshold workout is, or how to properly periodize training (in the broad sense). Anyone know of any other forums where people actually know what they're talking about?

Ask smart questions and you will get smart answers.

That being said how many 5K prediction or marathon prediction questions can people answer till they get tired of them.

There is a ton of good information on here, I would suggest using the search function. Granted it is hit or miss with it. I can handle all the trolling, just wish the search function worked a little better.

Just go to the training portion of the message board. It is amazing how much it actually weeds out the troll threads.