John Carlos thinks that Bolt is on drugs.

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8 years ago 10/11/2011 5:45pm CDT

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Quote from article:
"Carlos is less patient with the state of track and field and its assorted drug scandals. “How can you live with yourself and call yourself a champion, when you repeatedly have lied to yourself and lied to society?” he asked. “It’s gotten so bad that it’s actually destroying the sport and eating out the root of the sport from the bottom, and the bottom is about to fall out.”

Carlos was also dismissive of sprinting’s current sensation, Usain Bolt of Jamaica, saying, “I don’t look at him.”"

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/11/sports/john-carlos-of-68-olympics-protest-maintains-his-passion.html?ref=sports
Tommy2Nuttz

8 years ago 10/11/2011 5:50pm CDT
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Good to know...and the proof?
BRG/253

8 years ago 10/11/2011 6:12pm CDT
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"Anybody who ran faster than me is dirty" syndrome.
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8 years ago 10/11/2011 6:26pm CDT
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Or is it "someone who ran faster than everyone who ever cheated syndrome"?
BRG/253

8 years ago 10/11/2011 6:31pm CDT
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Edit wrote:

Or is it "someone who ran faster than everyone who ever cheated syndrome"?

Maybe the whole thing betrays the actual lack of value of steroids in sprinting. These are runners not bodybuilders.
not buyin it

8 years ago 10/11/2011 6:35pm CDT
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Carlos has always been dismissive of everyone except himself--he's always been a relentless self-promoter. This is the second time he has writen his life story (I do not think anyone bought the first book). Carlos has long claims that he "let Tommie Smith win" the gold in 68 (yeah, right), and that it was his idea (not Smith's) to do the black-gloved protest, which Smith (and most people who knew them at the time) adamently denies. Smith is much more believable, as he has had a long history of political activism. Carlos is a joke.

Lone Lobo

8 years ago 10/11/2011 6:59pm CDT

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Carlos was the Bronze medalisr so he was "letting" more than one guy beat him.
Readthearticle

8 years ago 10/11/2011 7:15pm CDT

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Nowhere In the article does Carlos say that he believes Bolt is using drugs. The OP has a misleadiing title and should change it.

The NYT writer ia also at fault for placing Carlos' quote about drugs next to Carlos' quote about Bolt. But that does not excuse the OP's sloppiness.

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8 years ago 10/11/2011 7:18pm CDT

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1.) For multiple reasons, Carlos is a fool
2.) having crushed times that convicted drug users have run, I'd tend to lean toward Bolt being ped powered
Last Runner

8 years ago 10/11/2011 7:56pm CDT
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He never says that Bolt is on drugs.

A good friend of mine ran with Carlos and knows him well. I was privileged to have met Carlos a few years back.

He is no one's fool.

If you weren't a black man in the 1960's you wouldn't have understood what drove that guy.
Koneko

8 years ago 10/11/2011 8:15pm CDT
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You'd have to be an idiot or painfully naive to believe that Bolt's times aren't drug aided. Dirtiest runner I've ever seen, after Paula Radcliffe.
I'll be honest just this once

8 years ago 10/11/2011 10:36pm CDT

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Actually, Nate Jenkins is the dirtiest runner ever. Sometimes weeks without a bath.

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8 years ago 10/11/2011 10:58pm CDT
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This should be the quote of the day:

“How can you live with yourself and call yourself a champion, when you repeatedly have lied to yourself and lied to society?” he asked. “It’s gotten so bad that it’s actually destroying the sport and eating out the root of the sport from the bottom, and the bottom is about to fall out.”
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8 years ago 10/12/2011 12:33am CDT
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I thought it was pretty clear Carlos' stance is that Bolt is obviously doping.

Maybe Carlos isnt super credible, or maybe he is - but I can see why someone from his era would doubt some of the performances of today, and for damn good reason IMO.
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8 years ago 10/12/2011 1:21am CDT
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Edit wrote:

Or is it "someone who ran faster than everyone who ever cheated syndrome"?

How many non-african cheaters has Galen rupp ran faster than.
$125,000

8 years ago 10/12/2011 2:01am CDT
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The guys up in Portland tell me it costs $125,000 per year for the resources to beat USADA and WADA and that there are plenty of people willing to pay.
Doclove

8 years ago 10/12/2011 3:58am CDT
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Still can't get over that salute, hey
SundownJack

8 years ago 10/12/2011 4:20am CDT
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>

What an idiot. Lies.
runn

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8 years ago 10/12/2011 5:30am CDT
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$125,000 wrote:

The guys up in Portland tell me it costs $125,000 per year for the resources to beat USADA and WADA and that there are plenty of people willing to pay.

So that means that plenty of people in the sport are making a lot more than $125,000? There's always talk here about how hard it is to make a living in track. Why would someone pay that much to come out in the hole?
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8 years ago 10/12/2011 6:48am CDT
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Carlos, in New York to promote the autobiography,
"I am here for you," Carlos said.

Hmmmm. Interesting timing.