Stop the press!
No shadow of a doubt. Works for him...( ;
Stop the press!
No shadow of a doubt. Works for him...( ;
what pace is he on? 2:03:10 or so?
would be sub 2:03 for sure if he was a midfoot striker.
Ask the people from somax or whatever its called. They could probably bargain him down to 1:50:00
Will this shut up the forefoot striking, vibram wearing Evangelists for good?
It's not a particularly prominent one:
It's more prominent than is the case with most elites:
http://www.wir-laufen.org/herne/all/race_news_10_04.php
(scroll down just a bit)
You do realise that you're going to get about 50 guys state since his foot wasn't touching the ground in those pictures, he is not a heel striker and then when shown pictures where his heel has reached the ground, they will still claim that we still don't have proof that he is a heel striker and in fact he can't be a heel striker because he couldn't be an efficient runner and set record if he was a heel striker.
Then they will provide links to long boring and mostly irrelevant videos on youtube in an attempt to prove their point.
long sox wrote:
You do realise that you're going to get about 50 guys state since his foot wasn't touching the ground in those pictures, he is not a heel striker and then when shown pictures where his heel has reached the ground, they will still claim that we still don't have proof that he is a heel striker and in fact he can't be a heel striker because he couldn't be an efficient runner and set record if he was a heel striker.
Then they will provide links to long boring and mostly irrelevant videos on youtube in an attempt to prove their point.
you're actually spot on. i guarantee you that his foot quickly flexes down before contact with the ground. do you really think he lands the way his foot is in the last picture?
mcquark wrote:
Will this shut up the forefoot striking, vibram wearing Evangelists for good?
Did you inspect the sole of his shoes for wear?
Will this shut up the forefoot striking, vibram wearing Evangelists for good?
Did you inspect the sole of his shoes for wear?
No I did not.
About 90 minutes in there was a slo-mo at ground level of makau running. It was crystal clear.
mcquark wrote:
About 90 minutes in there was a slo-mo at ground level of makau running. It was crystal clear.
I noticed from the LR photos that Makau was wearing shoes that had way built up heels. So, sure the shoes were touching the ground, because of the way the shoes were made. HIS heels were not touching the ground. It is not the way that he runs, however he definitely should get better shoes to run in.
mcquark wrote:
Will this shut up the forefoot striking, vibram wearing Evangelists for good?
Did you inspect the sole of his shoes for wear?
No I did not.
About 90 minutes in there was a slo-mo at ground level of makau running. It was crystal clear.
Maybe if you inspected the sole of his shoes (wear patterns), that would be crystal clear.
Not your assumptions that Makau heel strikes.
I'm a midfoot striker and finished over an hour behind him.
Finally, proof that heel striking is faster.
long sox wrote:
You do realise that you're going to get about 50 guys state since his foot wasn't touching the ground in those pictures, he is not a heel striker and then when shown pictures where his heel has reached the ground, they will still claim that we still don't have proof that he is a heel striker and in fact he can't be a heel striker because he couldn't be an efficient runner and set record if he was a heel striker.
Then they will provide links to long boring and mostly irrelevant videos on youtube in an attempt to prove their point.
Er....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocTXILmcapITook a screenshot from that video. The white midsole of his shoe makes seeing whats contacting the ground 1st pretty easy. Plenty of daylight under that foot with the heel making contact.
I noticed from the LR photos that Makau was wearing shoes that had way built up heels. So, sure the shoes were touching the ground, because of the way the shoes were made. HIS heels were not touching the ground. It is not the way that he runs, however he definitely should get better shoes to run in.
This is the stupidest thing I have ever read on letsrun. You cannot have the heel of your shoe hit the ground without your heel striking the grounds at the same time.
Makau is a heel striker. The mechanical inefficiencies of heel striking only exist in theory. In practice, it doesn't matter in the marathon or other road distances (track is different because of the spikes).
Bye bye vibrams, Pose, Chi, sore calves, achilles tendonitis, Newtons, and so on.
He also let's his arms cross his midline.
Even the fastest runners can have bad form.
minimalist North wrote:
He also let's his arms cross his midline.
Even the fastest runners can have bad form.
Unless you can quantify how this affects his efficiency you're just spouting personal bias about "ideal" running form. For all we know, there is some other little quirk in his musculo-skeletal system that makes crossing the midline with his arm allow him to be more efficient at marathon distances. Prove me wrong.
Because Zatopec ran in army boots should you do that?
Many elite track runners, including Morceli, run with their feet dorsiflexed. They run what is called midfoot, and their heels and midfeet strike the ground at exactly the same time. There is a video with Ryan Hall showing and talking about exactly that.
It appears the Makau may be doing exactly the same thing as Morceli and Hall.
But true heel striking, with the heel absolutely striking first, with absolute braking forces, then rolling onto the forefoot (too much) is the most inefficient way to run.
Marathoners are the slowest people in track and field outside throwers (Makau in his event runs about half as fast as Bolt), so heel striking pays a smaller performance penalty, and there are probably more of them: That doesn't mean it is the correct way, the most efficient, or the best way to avoid injury
Run some strides, sprints, and do proper drills, and you won't have to worry any about this.
lucKY2b wrote:
minimalist North wrote:He also let's his arms cross his midline.
Even the fastest runners can have bad form.
Unless you can quantify how this affects his efficiency you're just spouting personal bias about "ideal" running form. For all we know, there is some other little quirk in his musculo-skeletal system that makes crossing the midline with his arm allow him to be more efficient at marathon distances. Prove me wrong.
No, prove yourself right.
