Blake 9.82 (0.0) !!!!!!

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  • Sprint Geezer
    8 years ago 09/08/2011 3:09pm CDT
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    Yes. Already one of the fastest runs, ever.

    The fact that he's great is old news--the only real question remaining is how fast can he go? That would have been a 9.72 with a max allowable wind...

    Powell has already put up a big number this year, and Bolt would have put up a big one if he hadn't false-started.

    That leaves Gay, who knows what he will do next year.

    Should it still be the Big 3+1, or is it now officially the Big 4?

    Powell was his usual self--groin injury my a$$. He got his usual great first 40m, but failed to transition well. His top form was useless. When will this guy learn.

    I'm not suggesting that he run at top speed exactly like Gay and Blake--but I am sorry, he has to run more like them if he wants to stay competitive. He knows it. And it's not that he's too big--even Bolt runs more like them at top speed, except on that WR relay leg.

    Powell is a tool. He was totally ducking Blake in the last meeting where he dropped out at the last minute. Headcase. Unless he improves his finish, he won't be anywhere near Bolt, Blake, and Gay (if Gay can come back).

    So the Big 3 are now Bolt, Gay, and Blake, and the +1 is Powell. If Powell could get his usual first 40, and run the last 60 anything like the Big 3, he would go 9.6x.

    He pisses me off.

    BLAKE! Take a look at his running form, he races more and more like Gay every day. Their racing styles are virtually identical.

    9.82, along with his other runs this season, gives him one of the best seasons of anybody, ever. He has to be considered among the very best at this point, easily in 9.7x territory with any wind, and low 9.7x territory with max wind.
  • fagalag
    8 years ago 09/08/2011 3:12pm CDT
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    Just go away, please.
  • 52.43
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    8 years ago 09/08/2011 3:19pm CDT
    re: Sprint Geezer
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    Blake is STILL just the little brother of Bolt and Gay.
    Asafa pisses you of? He certainly didn't piss of the crowd who was there...
  • ghost of geezer
    8 years ago 09/08/2011 3:27pm CDT
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    Powell is useless. He's yesterday's news. He does great when nobody is looking. He looked to be improving his form as needed, a while ago, but has reverted to his old self. Whatever.

    Blake is still second fiddle to Bolt, but we don't know where he stands with respect to Gay and the surgery/rehab thing.

    If Bolt is healthy next year, the 100 will be Bolt-Blake-Gay.

    If Gay's surgery resolves any of Gay's alleged injury-related issues, it will be Gay-Bolt-Blake.

    If Blake improves by next year, it will be Gay-Blake-Bolt.

    And if he improves as much as he did this year, it will be Blake-Gay-Bolt.

    Too many variables, and too bad Bolt false-started.
  • DRE
    8 years ago 09/08/2011 3:31pm CDT
    re: ghost of geezer
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    On what basis does anyone beat bolt? Only way anyone beats bolt is if he is injured?
  • Sprint Geezer
    8 years ago 09/08/2011 3:57pm CDT
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    I agree with ghost, people might beat Bolt.

    Remember, Bolt is not above injury, even niggling injury that keeps him from training as he should. Guy is 6'5", that will catch up with him.

    If Gay's 9.79 from Clermont this year was real (a BIG if), then it would have been a battle between him and Bolt for the gold this year.

    Blake, however, is still improving. He made terrific improvement both last year, and this year. Not only that, but what's left to improve is obvious--his start, and his first 20m. He just ran 9.82 in still conditions, with obvious room for improvement, including in this race, his RT.

    He could already have been below 9.80 in this race, just based on RT alone, UNDER STILL CONDITIONS.

    With a slightly better RT and a good wind, this run would have been 9.6x

    The chances of Bolt ever being in 9.58 shape again are slim to none--and that may be what it takes to beat Blake next year. Blake has a whole year to work on his first 20--unfortunately, his start mechanic right now is one that is very forgiving on the body--smooth application of force, like Gay, rather than slamming the track like some others. If he isn't careful, he'll get injured trying to improve his first 20m--but he has no choice, unless he wants to run the same times next year as this year.

    With Bolt around, and Gay healthier, I don't think he should count on winning in London with this excellent time from Zurich. But like I said, the weaknesses seem obvious--low-hanging fruit that he has a year to pick.

    It is THAT basis on which he could beat Bolt.

    BTW, the exact same thing goes for Gay.
  • nikeman
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    8 years ago 09/08/2011 4:36pm CDT
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    Just another Jamaican drug cheat

    Prior to the 2009 World Championships, Blake (along with Marvin Anderson and Sheri-Ann Brooks) tested positive for the stimulant 4-Methyl-2-hexanamine. A disciplinary panel organised by the Jamaican Anti-Doping Commission (JADCO) cleared him of a doping infraction on the grounds that the drug was not on the World Anti-Doping Agency's banned list. However, JADCO appealed their own panel's ruling, stating that the athlete should be disciplined as the drug was similar in structure to the banned substance tuaminoheptane.
  • Sprint Geezer
    8 years ago 09/08/2011 4:40pm CDT
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    Oh and BTW, Blake's emergence this year as a truly great sprinter is more confirmation that everybody is using.

    All of a sudden there is not 1 9.6-9.7 guy (Powell), not 2 9.6-9.7 guys (Powell and Gay), not 3 9.6-9.7 guys (Powell, Gay, and Bolt), but 4----FOUR----9.6-9.7 guys (Powell, Gay, Bolt, and Blake).

    How many others have there been in history?

    How is it that these guys all happen to exist AT THE SAME TIME?

    3 was bad enough, now 4 is over the top.

    Since I called Blake 2 years ago, who is the NEXT most likely sub-9.8 candidate?

    Hmmm, it doesn't really look like there is anybody on the horizon. Somebody will have to emerge from the ranks next year, same way Blake did recently. Who will it be? Who will catch the bug? Lee? Lemaitre? Makusha? Bailey?

    Place your bets now.
  • Coach D
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    8 years ago 09/08/2011 4:44pm CDT
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    Sprint Geezer wrote: Bolt would have put up a big one if he hadn't false-started.
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    THIS is WHY Bolt false-started. He knew he was going to need a big performance against Blake--and the old drugs were not available.

    Pressed too hard to avoid losing to Blake.
  • nikeman
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    8 years ago 09/08/2011 4:50pm CDT
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    If you really believe that any of the Jamaicans aren't doping or haven't doped in the past, you're the biggest idiot on this board, and that's saying A LOT.
  • Coach D
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    8 years ago 09/08/2011 4:59pm CDT
    re: Sprint Geezer
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    Jeff Demps, the only guy around who sprinted faster than Lemaitre as a junior. I've read that he turned down millions to turn pro in sprinting to play football one more time before he does turn pro in sprinting.
  • lint pleaser
    8 years ago 09/08/2011 5:12pm CDT
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    Seb Coe would struggle to break 12.0 out of blocks!
  • Street Professor
    8 years ago 09/08/2011 5:12pm CDT
    re: coach d
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    coach d wrote:
    THIS is WHY Bolt false-started. He knew he was going to need a big performance against Blake--and the old drugs were not available.

    It's nice that the new drugs still got him down to 19.4 and a very fast 100m relay leg, then.
  • :|}
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    8 years ago 09/08/2011 5:12pm CDT
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    nikeman wrote:

    If you really believe that any of the Jamaicans aren't doping or haven't doped in the past, you're the biggest idiot on this board, and that's saying A LOT.

    Are you a moron? Sprint Geezer did say in his last post that everybody's using. Also, if you ever looked at any of his other threads, he's constantly saying that everyone uses and he gets shit for that. You have to give him credit for that at the very least.
  • Sprint Geezer
    8 years ago 09/08/2011 5:34pm CDT
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    Here's the thing, d--if Bolt was on drugs for his WR's, he was on drugs while very young. As others have said, they make you improve faster.

    Maybe without the drugs, he would have gotten there anyway, and that's the kind of Bolt we're seeing now, a couple of years later, a couple of years more mature, a couple of years better.

    Also, if he was using in the past, there is a decent chance that he retains some, if not all, of the benefits of that use.

    However you slice it, he is f-ing fast. I could see him having wiped his a$$ with Blake in the final--but I think he would only have needed a decent start, not necessarily a great one.

    Did you see his form in the relay? Holy crap, d, that was real sprint form. Even Bolt said that he was at 100%. I think he could have stretched it out a bit more in the last couple of strides, like Lewis and others used to do, but that form would have made him a beast in the 100m.
  • ventolin^3
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    8 years ago 09/08/2011 5:41pm CDT
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    Sprint Geezer wrote:The chances of Bolt ever being in 9.58 shape again are slim to none--and that may be what it takes to beat Blake next year

    drivel

    both peking if flat-out & berlin, adjusted down to 0.13s rt/0 wind, work out at

    ~ 9.62/9.63

    this kid had 0.17s rt at 410m

    former offers 0.04s possibility & latter 0.01 detriment

    he is currently an

    ~ 9.79

    he is a huge way from '08/'09 bolt

    get that into your numbskull

    Blake has a whole year to work on his first 20--unfortunately, his start mechanic right now is one that is very forgiving on the body--smooth application of force, like Gay, rather than slamming the track like some others

    crap

    there is no relationship between upping benching/leg-press & injury probablility of various body types in elite sprinters

    If he isn't careful, he'll get injured trying to improve his first 20m--but he has no choice, unless he wants to run the same times next year as this year

    moron

    why the fuuck does he have to improve his 20m to run same times as this year ???

    With Bolt around, and Gay healthier, I don't think he should count on winning in London with this excellent time from Zurich. But like I said, the weaknesses seem obvious--low-hanging fruit that he has a year to pick.

    It is THAT basis on which he could beat Bolt

    idiot

    use experience of watching

    he is a 9.79 guy currently with excellent overall race mechanics

    even in these days of rapid improvements, he is likely to hit rule of diminishing returns

    a 9.74/9.75 basic may be in his future next year, but anything quicker is bordering on idiot drivel
  • wejo
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    8 years ago 09/08/2011 5:42pm CDT
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    I'm curious about Powell running here but now Worlds.

    Now Powell did pick up the $40,000 DL title but what is his appearance fee?

    And probably no showing at Worlds and still saying "look at my pb" is financially better than getting beat.

    I've like to hear people discuss the financial implications of him skipping Worlds but running here.
  • Barakus Obama
    8 years ago 09/08/2011 6:03pm CDT
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    I'm curious about Bolt FS in 100m final.

    Word in Mills camp is that Blake was Beating Bolt consistently in short races (not longer than 100m).

    Conspiracy bottom line is: Bolt FS on purpose...avoiding a loss.

    Later, repeat his 200 and 4x100 titles...but more importantly, mantain his appearance fee.
  • body master
    8 years ago 09/08/2011 6:14pm CDT
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    Ghost of Geezer seems to be the same person as sprint geezer. Gimme a break.

    And Powell has run a WL this year. 9.78. You're an idiot to even think to count him out.

    Why are we all bagging on Powell for not running worlds when Tyson Gay didn't even run Nationals?! An event he could have won easily.

    Powell looked seriously hurt. Every post you make sprint geezer gives you less and less credibility on your experience as a sprinter.

    I AM a sprinter and i've had a hurt groin. You CANNOT open up and reach your true stride with it. Of course Powell can run a fantastic drive phase but thats it. He can't open up or he would risk ripping it.

    At first 40m i thought Powell was about to run another 9.72 like in Lausanne. It was fantastic.
  • Barakus Obama
    8 years ago 09/08/2011 6:19pm CDT
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    Im starting to think that Sprint Geezer is a 12 second 100m runner. Like Seb Coe in his prime.