Wheating - if anyone- will be our next current 1500m guy to medal

Wheating, the guy who can't even race well enough to make a semi-final! Sure. He may be fast but fast hasn't mattered much in the medal chase: see Alan Webb for example. Winning medals and running fast in a low-key race are two very different things.

1500mlova wrote:

Wheating, the guy who can't even race well enough to make a semi-final! Sure. He may be fast but fast hasn't mattered much in the medal chase: see Alan Webb for example. Winning medals and running fast in a low-key race are two very different things.

Try thinking things through before posting. If every future medalist had to make the 2011 semis -at age 23 no less- then track would go extinct in a few years. Wheating's also very off-form. If you still don't understand, then hire a tutor.

Two 3:29 runners didn't make the final this year - championship 1500s are a different species entirely. Wheating may prove capable of thriving under championship conditions but citing his (impressive) PR isn't as strong a point of evidence as you think.

1500mlova wrote:

Wheating, the guy who can't even race well enough to make a semi-final! Sure. He may be fast but fast hasn't mattered much in the medal chase: see Alan Webb for example. Winning medals and running fast in a low-key race are two very different things.

Injury plagued season.

You don't keep up much do you?

Reread the first sentence quoted, then hire a tutor. Or just stop being lazy and read thoroughly on your own.

You're right on. Centro gets one in a couple hours, Wheating in short time. Centro might get another before Wheating gets #1, but it's just a matter of time before they're like Coe and Ovett (minus the controversy and WRs)

Wheating and Centro. GO DUCKS!!

Wrong. Centro is the bizzarro Wheating. He can probably barely go under 3:34 but he will be on the medal stand with Bronze.

ttc wrote:

2010 Wheating was a 3:30, 3:51, 1:44 guy, who also placed 2nd through 5th and beat people in the fastest of races. Combined with his kick, those are major "skills". IMO, he would have medaled last year. In that exact time frame, his racing was comparable to a prime N.Willis- who silver medaled in the even tougher Olympics. Hopefully, people are not forgetting what a huge world-level talent he is.

(My subject title is clear. So if anyone thinks I should not post anything that compliments anyone except Centro, then don't enter the thread.)

Wheating has the talent, no doubt. But after watching the guy for about 4 years now, he simply doesn't have the right racing instincts (these can't be learned in my view). Too many bad things happen in races and he doesn't know how to react.He will always lose more than he wins in clutch running against solid fields.

Hmm, Centro just medaled...Who looks dumb now

Wheating needs a new coach. Vin is overrated, crash and burn. Tough to run well over the long haul with him as coach. Can recruit but....

Think about it this way: among all the great U.S. talents, which of them would you think had the top chances for a 1500m medal, if healthy and in the race?

Lagat (2009 double medalist, 2007 double gold (take note Brojos, not Spivey))--not competing

Wheating (1:44 and 3:30.9 in his first Euro race, and a many time NCAA champ)--injured hamstring and earlier calf

Webb (1:43.8 (1st)/3:30 (1st/WL)/3:46.91(WL))--injured

Manzano (3:32/World Cup medal/has won on the circuit)--flamed out early

Lomong (3:32)--didn't qualify

Centro (3:34 pr/NCAA champ/3:36 at 19)--US champ and bronze medalist

GF (3:39 NCAA champ as a frosh/solo 3:55i as a frosh)--injured and/or underperforming the past two years

Robbie Andrews (1:44/3:40 (closing fast), NCAA champ, a great future in this event--disappointed in the 800m at USATF after a great season.

David Torrence (1:45/3:34?)--didn't qualify.

It would have been hard to rank Centro near the top of this group, and there are others out there, but this is why we needed to produce depth at the top level, because without that depth we would just have a bunch of injuries and lesser talents representing us at the World's.

Mr. One Trick Pony better figure out some new tactics other than thinking he's going to hang out in the back and kick everyone down. Laalou, baala, and about 50 kenyans negate the plan that works for the wsu dual meet.

Wheating better check out coach Gags - right now AW doesn't have the fire in his belly.

I ran for both coaches - Vin is brilliant & masterful, but no one will dress you down for being a wussball more than Gags. Fortunately I never received the full treatment, but I saw it plenty.

Right now Andrew Wheating has talent, but like Symmonds & Webb, he doesn't have balls, gumption, fire, killer instinct. He's a fast runner. Big deal. They're a dime a dozen. Winners are a different breed.

Centro knows how to race, and I am not convinced that Wheating does. Wheating may just be a time trial runner like Webb. Besides, Wheatings 3:30 is yesterday's news. Heck, US fans have been waiting 4 years just for Webb to break 3:35 again!!

Right now the US 1500 belongs to both Centro and Lagat.

Question Mark wrote:

Right now Andrew Wheating has talent, but like Symmonds & Webb, he doesn't have balls, gumption, fire, killer instinct...

Wow, you are incredibly, totally, absolutely, astoundingly off in your equating Wheating and Symmonds.

Wheating is a talent extraordinaire who may or may not learn to race and certainly hasn't delivered on his god-given talent.

Symmonds is a mediocre talent who is a brilliant racer and has gotten 110% (in sports parlance) out of his talent.

They simply could not be more opposite.