Any experience with both? Or does anybody have knowledge in the ingredients they carry to know which one is more effective on recovery and performance? I am interested in trying one of these products and I want to know which one is more effective. Thanks!
PS: Extreme Endurance does not contain beta-alanine, it uses a different mixture of ingredients to do it's job.
Tried Beta-Alanine for a while, I didn't feel any boost in performance. The science behind it is ambivalent. Here's a quote from a study using sub-52 sec 400m runners (most studies use cyclists):
Another study, with sub-52-sec 400m runners at 4.8g/d B-alanine
"muscle carnosine content can be substantially elevated
by oral beta-alanine supplementation in sprint-trained athletes;
3) muscle carnosine loading significantly attenuates
fatigue in repeated bouts of exhaustive dynamic contractions;
4) beta-alanine supplementation does not result in
better 400m run performance."
The idea with beta alanine is that it stores carnosine in muscles, which buffers against acid. It seems that it DOES increase carnosine, but doesn't increase buffering that much. There's also some concern that the body will ease off its own natural buffering because of the artificial buffering. No proof of that though.
You'd be better off taking caffeine before a race if you want a guaranteed performance boost. Beta alanine also causes a weird tingling in your fingers and ears sometimes (parasthesia).
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Hey, Extreme Endurance uses Calcium Bicarbonate to buffer that lactic acid. They have got a published Clinical Study to prove that it works. Beta Alanine, takes months to get any sort of results. Where as Extreme Endurance I felt a difference within 4 days of using it. It helped a bit with improving my times, but it was the recovery that was awesome.
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Any experience with both? Or does anybody have knowledge in the ingredients they carry to know which one is more effective on recovery and performance? I am interested in trying one of these products and I want to know which one is more effective. Thanks!
PS: Extreme Endurance does not contain beta-alanine, it uses a different mixture of ingredients to do it's job.
The known supplemental dietary buffers are sodium bicarbonate, which works well for sprinters but needs such a high dose that it causes severe gastrointenstinal issues, and beta-alanine, which has some research to support it as well (at least one showing improved running economy) but is still a "young" supplement.
Looking at the ingredient label....the "calcium carbonate" you see is simply a calcium supplement.....and not a very good one. Calcium Citrate Malate is a better absorbed supplemental calcium.
Also, calcium inhibits iron absorption so you shouldn't take them together.
Extreme Endurance is simply a hodge-podge of vitamins, minerals, and other supplements likely in inadequate amounts (omega-3s) or conflicting substances (iron and calcium).
I bet it's got a GREAT marketing plan behind it though!!!
Alan
Obviously Extreme Endurance does not have a good marketing plan. There are 3 Beta-Alanine ads on this page alone. They need to step there game up.
I couldn’t find this type of clinical trial info for Beta-Alanine but Extreme Endurance has it.
http://xendurance.com/eeprotocol.pdf
http://xendurance.com/eepublication.pdf
http://xendurance.com/eestudy.pdf
The science behind Extreme Endurance.
Clinical Study Proving Effectiveness of Extreme Endurance
A Gold-Standard, *third party, double-blind, placebo controlled, cross over study, was conducted on Extreme Endurance whereby twenty-two (22) elite athletes were given baseline tests. Each athlete was given dosage protocol and either product A or product B. When the final test results were completed, the 22 athletes showed an average lactic acid reduction of 15% and an increase of aerobic threshold by double digits. All athletes reported less muscle burn and faster recovery with less muscle soreness.
*(third party testing means that Lifespan International, the parent company of Extreme Endurance, had no knowledge of what testing facility would be used and did not choose the testing facility)
This clinical study was published in the Clinical Journal of the European Society for Clinical Nutrition and Metabolism, (vol 5, supplement 1, 2010) and presented at the March 13, 2010, 6th Annual Conference of the EU Nutraceutical Association. - And our testing continues on athletes at Corpus Diagnostik in Hilpoltstein, Germany.
Jürgen Sessner, the lead researcher at Corpus Diagnostik has done over 7,000 Step Tests, (we call them VO2 Max tests in the US) in the last decade and has been testing athletes for 13 years including 3 Hawaii Ironman Champions. He has held over 60 training camps for triathletes and his main one in the last few years has been in Lanzarote, Canary Islands.