Someone on the dyestat boards was wondering what the best 16/32 double ever was for a high school kid. I don't post on dyestat but it was an interesting topic so I thought I'd throw it on here and someone can refer it over if they'd like. Anyone know of better than this? .... Rich Kimball 1974 4:06/8:46.
and that be mile/2mile
1. Donald Sage - 4:07 / 8:42
2. Rich Kimball - 4:06 / 8:46
3. Craig Virgin - 4:11 / 8:46
4. Christian Wagner - 4:07 / 8:55
5. Steve Prefontaine - 4:07 / 9:00
Sage, Virgin, Eric Henry, and Wagner have thrown down the most big doubles... not just one or two... but consistantly under 4:12 / 9:05 when they run their doubles.
Scott Fry ran under 9:00 off the double several times as well
IN wrote:
1. Donald Sage - 4:07 / 8:42
2. Rich Kimball - 4:06 / 8:46
3. Craig Virgin - 4:11 / 8:46
4. Christian Wagner - 4:07 / 8:55
5. Steve Prefontaine - 4:07 / 9:00
Sage, Virgin, Eric Henry, and Wagner have thrown down the most big doubles... not just one or two... but consistantly under 4:12 / 9:05 when they run their doubles.
kimball, when converted to 1600/3200, moves to #1 on that list...
Small correction- Sage ran 8.42/4.08 at the state meet, not 4.07. In HS he only ran under 9 min for 3200 twice, two weeks apart- he had run 8.45 at the Dupage Valley meet two weeks before state.
Isn't Illinois' state meet 2 days? Does that count?
I believe Virgin ran the 8:41.0 at his State Meet didn't he? And I have heard that it was horrendously hot and he ran the mile also but lost.
Am I wrong, or mixed up on facts? Or did he just run like 4:12 that day and the 8:42/4:0x was faster?
Although not at the Kimball level, John Zishka ran 8:49/4:10, then 30 minutes later threw in a 1:53.
In Illinois prelims are on Fri and finals are on Sat. Sage ran 8:42/4:07 on Sat after running 1600 prelims on Fri (no 3200 prelims in Illinois).
Actually, it makes Sage's double that much more impressive since Illinois does have a two day state meet. In Illinois they have prelims for every event other than the 3200 on Friday. In prelims Sage ran a 4:15 to qualify for the finals, and then on Saturday in the finals of the 3200 and 1600 he ran 8:42 and 4:07 respectively. That means he ran this double after running a 1600 the previous day.
At the Cali state meet a while back, Meb ran 4:07/8:58.
Sage's double was the first time I ever heard a track meet crowd actually gasp - his 57 sec. last lap was a thing of amazing beauty. He made Keller look like he was walking in concrete. I'd rooted for Keller that entire race (just to have a new king in Illinois), but after that I've been a huge Sage fan. To come back an hour and a half later and beat (an admittedly very tired) Justin Amason was equally impressive. No breaks in Illinois distance running, given the lack of girls competitors and the fact that the 3200 is first.
how about matt centro? i think in 1973?
Ryun ran 9:05 then came back with a 4:04.4 (55.8 last 440) at the '65 Golden West. Not a bad day.
Which makes Marius Bakken's triple at the IL state meet a few years earlier even more impressive, since Marius had to qualify on Friday in both the 800 and the 1600, and then run all three finals in the space of just over 3 hours on Saturday- he won the 3200 first in, I think, 9.07, then took second in the 800 with a 1.53 about an hour later, and then won the 1600 about 90 minutes after that in a time of 4.14. 28 points all on his own, and not a sprinter (Babatunde Ridley had won the 100, 200, LJ and TJ for Carlinville, scoring 40 points all on his own and allowing Carlinville to win the Class A meet).
Jim White had tried this around 10 years earlier but 90+ degree heat did him in. To my knowledge, these are the only 2 to do this in IL.
Ritzenhein ran 4:08/9:00 at the state meet his junior year (2000). This was after he'd already run on the runner-up 4x800 (7:50), although I'm not sure what he split on the relay, i think it was around 1:54ish? Maybe someone who remembers could enlighten us.
Mark Mastalir 1986 Section Championships:
4:04.15 / 9:02.65
Times are in meters, so you can convert.
For any of you high schoolers who wonder what it takes to be one of the elite. Here's Mark Mastalir's training log for 1986 for your enjoyment.
sage also ran the prelims of the 4x4 on friday in about 49.x