Chocolate Milk vs. Gatorade/Powerade/etc.

So you honestly have no basic knowledge of macronutrients?

Aside from Africa and certain middle eastern countries, the United States is the most scientifically illiterate places on earth.

"one of the most"

pooped

eh screw it

Goes down real smooth.

For a basic overview see:

http://www.indiana.edu/~rcapub/v29n1/milk.shtml

Ultimately, there was one study in 2006 that showed chocolate milk was a good alternative to existing sports drinks. The milk industry took this and ran with a campaign that vastly overstated the conclusions of the actual research that was done on cyclists.

The applicability to normal running workouts is tenuous when you actually read the methodology used. It involved time to exhaustion in a 2nd workout of low/moderate intentsity several hours after the 1st workout when no other food was permitted. I think the primary finding of this research was the value of protein, which milk naturally provides and most sports drinks at that time did not have.

Milk is not a super-drink. In the words of the researchers is a good alternative to sports drinks existing in 2006 under the conditions in which the study was done.

Sports drinks have the advantage that you can put one or two in your bag in the morning and drink them 12 hours later after they have been exposed to significant heat sitting in the sun. I don't know that I would want to do that with chocolate milk.

You can easily purchase the single serving chocolate milks and keep one in your bag. Sure they taste better cold, but they aren't bad at room temp either. Costco has some good organic (and relatively affordable) single serving chocolate milk.

You are a moron. Did you even finish high school?

They serve completely different purposes (protein vs simple carbohydrates and electrolytes) and can't be compared in any meaningful way.

LA school district sees chocolate milk as such a threat that they have decided to get rid of it:

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/health/2015320894_milk15.html

by the fall the district will be a national leader," said Matthew Sharp, senior advocate with the California Food Policy Advocates, who has long worked on school food reform.

The Board of Education does not generally vote on individual menu items, but it weighed in on flavored milk because it must approve large contracts. The board approved a five-year, $100-million dairy contract Tuesday that excludes chocolate and strawberry milk. It includes low-fat and nonfat plain milk as well as soy and Lactaid.

One big problem with Chocolate milk is that most people just buy some at a convenience store on their way home and don't read the label. That type of premade chocolate milk has a bunch of High Fructose Corn Syrup in it.

towhee wrote:

LA school district sees chocolate milk as such a threat that they have decided to get rid of it:

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/health/2015320894_milk15.html

Are they serving Gatorade instead or is this completely irrelevant?

Durring workouts: Gatorade

After workouts: Chocolate Milk

I bet if you try and drink chocolate milk durring a workout you will vomit.

The only negative to slim fast is the HFCS.

the smartessts letsrnuner wrote:

You are a moron. Did you even finish high school?

They serve completely different purposes (protein vs simple carbohydrates and electrolytes) and can't be compared in any meaningful way.

Why be a total dick about it? I can imagine the look of disgust on your face as you frantically typed your response. You got him!

Not All wrote:

One big problem with Chocolate milk is (..) High Fructose Corn Syrup

That is true for the cheap one, e.g. Hersheys or the premade ones. I suggest buying milk and something like Nesquick, which is made with real sugar.

Gatorade also has HFCS. I am not aware of any widely available sports drink (e.g. what your typical convenience store or gas station would carry) that doesn't have HFCS (in the US).

The science behind it, largely, is that it was sponsored by the dairy industry from day one. Throw in a faulty test using just a handful of cyclists who were frat boys attending their friends "study" and top it off with ridiculous results. Even if it was better, it won't make people go twice as long or more certain barometers which is what it showed vs. Enduros/accelerade which probably has more protein, so that's not the issues.

By the way, commercial pre-made chocolate milk is usually made with grade B milk. What's grade B? The discolored, puss filled stuff that's a result of over doping the cows to produce as much milk as possible. If you believe in clean sport, you should believe in clean agriculture too. Avoid the nasty milk.

Not All wrote:

One big problem with Chocolate milk is that most people just buy some at a convenience store on their way home and don't read the label. That type of premade chocolate milk has a bunch of High Fructose Corn Syrup in it.

The other big problem is that it has milk in it.

I was an IU student who saw the study results and data just after it was finished, and way before it ever appeared on any website or news show.

Here is what I found strange:

Only about 8-10 cyclist were used. This seemed like a small pool of people for such an important study.

They all performed a test, I believe it was at vo max until they couldn't do any more. Wait 2 hours with nothing but water. Ingest the test drink. Wait two hours perform the test again.

So what is strange is in the article above he mentions the 45 minute optimal window to ingest food, yet waits 2 hours in his study.

They all ingested a certain volume of the fluids, not adjusted for equal calories.

It never mentioned how far apart the tests were done with the different fluids.

As was said above the results seemed a little ridiculous, with it outperforming the others by a factor of 2.

Chocolate milk has caffeine where the others don't. Isn't this enough to have an affect?

I'm not saying there is no way it works, but there was something very fishy about the study in my mind.

Also, we're a little better off here in the USA, because of western euro heredity, but I recently read that about 80% of the world is lactose intolerant.

I'd love to see a better study done and find out the real results. But in the meantime I'm not holding my breath for that or drinking chocolate milk that's for sure.

Dingler is right. Protein AFTER your workout. Water & Gatorade before or during. Protein is hard to digest, so using it during a workout might not be advisable. Chocolate milk is cheap and good but something like Muscle Milk might be better since it's lactose free (easier to digest), probably has less fat, and offers a lot more nutrients.

NJCoach wrote:

Muscle Milk might be better since it's lactose free (easier to digest), probably has less fat, and offers a lot more nutrients.

What's wrong with fat post workout?