hey look at me im mo farah and running 62s are so easy that i'm gonna run a 53 second quarter just to show how easy they were.
62/53 = 1.16
70/60 = 1.16
Do 14:25 guys regularly go 14:25 off 11.5 laps of 14:35 pace???
hey look at me im mo farah and running 62s are so easy that i'm gonna run a 53 second quarter just to show how easy they were.
62/53 = 1.16
70/60 = 1.16
Do 14:25 guys regularly go 14:25 off 11.5 laps of 14:35 pace???
It looks like some of you yanks are a bit jealous of Mo Farah. He comes over to your country to train - kicks your boys asses and all of a sudden he is on drugs - lol! He has not come out of nowhere by the way - research before you post you 'douchbags' as you guys say!
he is all of a sudden on drugs because he couldn't break 13:20 for the last 5 years.
Sleeping Policeman wrote:
All I can say is that he was clearly ludicrously talented as a junior here in the UK and if anything it has only surprised me it took him so long to get under 13:00 and 27:00.
Um...looks like Farah ran
1:50
3:47
14:00
as a junior. Hardly ludicrous talent...
thetruthhearts wrote:
national biases is all. If this were a European site, the posters would post accusations about Ritzenhein and other athletes.
A lot of posters on here are European.
Hey elmore345, Either he is on drugs or your country sucks so bad at developing an athlete that he had to come here.
Nero wrote:
The question should be, who isn't on PED's and if everyone is one them does it matter?
It's more difficult for me to believe that someone is on PEDs if they've always been good. If there is a natural progression in times. If you watch, Haile, Bekele, Tergat, and the likes it's hard to believe that they can't run the times that they've run...especially Haile. The guy was born to run. Before he was on the map, he was already starting to show that he could dominate big races.
I guess you're may be suggesting that they've always been on PEDs and I just don't believe this.
The red flags begin to raise when someone goes from o.k. to #1 in the world within a year.
Take, for example, LA. I remember watching Armstrong in the tour before his comeback. Yeah, he was alright, but I don't even remember seeing him finish a the tour. He'd won the WC, but he was nothing special and on the mountain climbs he would get dusted.
Does Farah fit this? I don't know. And if he does, does it me he's on PEDs? No.
You sure you're not a sepo yourself using words like "asses" and "guys" instead of proper English ie arses and blokes.
And no, he's not on drugs.
Abe Froman wrote:
toujour wrote:So were Bekele, Haile, and ElG all on it too?
Well, Haile was phenomenally good as a junior. Saw video of him almost defeating William Segei (spelling?) when he was probably 17 or 18.
Haile, and I assume Bekele, have always been good.
Not sure if Farah fits this (being extremely good as a junior).[/quote]
Geb was not phenomenally good as a junior!
At 19 (1992) he had PB's of 13:36.06 and 28:03.99.
Good, but nothing compared to what many Kenyans have produced.
rouge6standingby wrote:
he is all of a sudden on drugs because he couldn't break 13:20 for the last 5 years.
What? He broke 13:20 in every one of the last 5 years.
The idea that he was "ok" and became No.1 in a year is laughable.
He ran 12:57 last year and was double European Champion. The talent was already there before being further nurtured in the US.
deanouk wrote:
Geb was not phenomenally good as a junior!
At 19 (1992) he had PB's of 13:36.06 and 28:03.99.
Good, but nothing compared to what many Kenyans have produced.
The way I see it Geb was actually a junior then. The Kenyans today are mostly age cheats. A legit 18-year-old running those times has the capacity to be a legend.
Imagine if L.V. was raised at altitude. That's a scary thought...
ikindalikebutts wrote:
c'mon guys. 11 minutes with 2 laps to go is what 13:05 pace? to close in 60 - 53 seconds off a 13:05 paced race is kind of laughable. well, finding the ability to do so in a year is laughable. this is a huge joke. i can't believe the last thread got deleted. that guy needs to be tested to the gills.
Hey, don't runners usually finish faster off as slow pace
He is standing out partly beacuse since KB nobody has moved up to take the No1 mantle
For a few years when he was running just oustide 13 he was carrying injuries. That's why he always use to wear those long compressions and if you watch his races you could see he was carrying an injury as his stride was never right
Of course anyone could be banging back the old EPO who knows but its pathetic how on here he is either doping or just lucky with gentetics.
Only on here can you get people supporting proven drug cheats then knocking someone who has no slur against him. Pathetic really
yeah fire try it sometime
I'm from the UK and Mo was the year above me and it was obvious to everyone that he was in a different league even back then.
Sitting with an athlete getting tested a couple weeks back and the guy says after the guy I am with puts down only 2 items on any thing he is taking, "Salazar's guys take 3 or 4 pages of stuff" Got him to then say he tested Farah last year and he only listed like 4-5 items he was taking and now he has 4 pages in his tests this year! Says the only guy he has ever tested who had more than those guys was LaShawn Merritt!
Take it for what its worth but I found it very insightful.
deanouk wrote:
Geb was not phenomenally good as a junior!
At 19 (1992) he had PB's of 13:36.06 and 28:03.99.
Good, but nothing compared to what many Kenyans have produced.
Yeah, you're right, winning both the 5,000 and 10,000 at junior worlds isn't very phenomenal.
The year he ran 13.09 and finished 6th in the world champs (2007), he was jumping off bridges into the river Thames. The boy has always been an amazing talent, he was still going out, drinking, staying up late, up until 2008 and then started to get serious, especially when he settled down with his wife.
I doubt you will meet anyone more focused. As for the testing - if there was LEGAL things you could take (medications, vitamins), which would help you to run faster, stay healthier, recover quicker, then why the f**k would you not take it..! After all, its not ILLEGAL.
He smashed Kogo last year at the British 10k, then turned over Gebre Gebremariam in a half marathon this year. Wins the double at the European track champs last year, won the European Indoor 2k champs n 2009. Finished 10th at W XC in 2007 but he's success has just happened overnight? HARDLY!
IN 2000 HE FINISHED 10TH IN THE WORLD JUNIOR 5000m. He's been around for a long time!!
So to the OP question - I doubt Farah is taking anything illegal. He is an incredible talent.
Race: IAAF World Youth Championships 3000m
Date: July 16th, 1999
Venue: Bydgoszcz, Poland
01 Pius Muli KEN 8:08.16
02 Kenenisa Bekele ETH 8:09.89
03 Anouar Assila MAR 8:13.54
04 Hussen Adilo ETH 8:20.87
05 Suichi Fujii JPN 8:21.23
06 Mohammed Farah GBR 8:21.25
07 Job Sikoria UGA 8:21.96
08 Michael Kipyego KEN 8:22.17
09 Kazuya Masuyama JPN 8:22.71
10 Emmanuel Masika ZIM 8:30.99
11 Modisa Leselamose BOT 8:31.15
12 Dzmitriy Baranouski BLR 8:32.48
13 Siarhei Berdnik BLR 8:34.72
Can confirm he's been around a while, guy in 2nd is pretty good.
I remember watching him at an English Schools cross country race in, I think, 1999. He won the intermediate boys race (i.e. 15/16) by over 50 seconds without even really trying. He literally was jumping up to touch the leaves on some of the trees as he ran away from the field easily. Looked like he could have won by two minutes if he had bothered trying.
As another poster said, times aside, everyone knew how good he was. Or at least how good he could be if he dedicated himself.
Farah was also a bit of a party animal in his teens and early 20's I think and never really trained like he should have. He has openly admitted that when he moved in with the Kenyan's a couple of years ago that it was a huge eye opener as to how professional they were and how much harder they trained than him.
Now that he has his head on the same level as his body he is running the times he has always been capable of. A massive talent, good luck to him.