why is lukas in that two mile

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Do you mean, why does he want to do it (to get pulled along to a time he couldn't achieve in a race with high school kids), or why do the race organizers want to let him do it (incredibly high interest in the hot new UO recruit among people who might buy Pre tickets)?

Courage.

would you rather have him run against other high schoolers where he laps the entire field? He is obviously on a different level than every high schooler in the county (other than cheserek), and he wants to have races to prepare him for collage running where he will probably get beaten pretty good very often.

why isn't he trying to rub a sub 4 out? a sub 4 still competitive. he may get the 2 mile record which will get him accolades from the runner-nerdocracy, but the sub 4 in high school is some real cred, $$$, etc.

cause he wants to get sucked to a fast time, thats how you get fast times and big pr's, you run with guys waay faster than you. how the hell do you think Webb was able to run as fast as he did back when he got his record? what about wheating, he had a 3:58 pr for the mile yet not only did he get a huge pr and not have any1 ask why he was in the bowerman mile as opposed to the international mile, but he ran damn well. it's not humiliating when everyone clearly knows he's not gonna win (unless it goes like the BAA road mile), he's only a highschooler so no pressure on him to win anything, and everyone already knows he's only going for one thing; the highschool record. how do you think german fernandez ran his AJR for the 5k? he was lucas' age when he did that and had a pr at the time that wasnt substantially better than lucas' is right now. and need i remind you lucas' 5k pr is 14:06 for indoors, which if he were to go for a fast time outdoors would be mid to low 13:50's.

fast wrote:

would you rather have him run against other high schoolers where he laps the entire field? He is obviously on a different level than every high schooler in the county (other than cheserek), and he wants to have races to prepare him for collage running where he will probably get beaten pretty good very often.

Yes, collage running. Very difficult to win when you are clustered in there with all the pictures of everyone else.

because he can...and you can't....

Because Alan Webb ran 3:53 at Pre. For that matter, I don't understand why he's not in the mile. He's just going to be running alone here: could've done that at any meet.

so everyone can clearly see (especially him) that he isn't ready to turn pro yet.

I guess the answer is for attention, for him and the meet.

This doesn't compare to Webb because Webb' PR going onto that race was good enough for him to be in contact with the field and he obviously wound up being competetive in the race.

You can only get helped to a fast time if you can keep contact. And that doesn't seem likely here.

Hey, maybe something special will happen.

I think that one of the pacemakers is for him since he is after all going to Oregon in the fall. Probably someone from the OTC to bring him round 4:14-4:17.

Probably not. There is a big difference between getting getting "sucked" to a fast time in a mile when you are going to be able to hang longer and not have to run by yourself for as much of the race and getting sucked to a fast time in a 5k where there is a 45s+ gap between you and the next guy, sure he may get sucked along for the first mile but then, after running that first mile he is going to be gassed, have two miles to go and be promptly dropped (unless the pace is slow), and then have to finish the last two miles of the race by himself, exhausted from going out to hard. Sounds like a recipe for a major bonk to me. I mean I don't care if he does it, I guess he has earned the right to do it, but I think its not a good idea and probably won't even be interesting for most of the race. Now if they have a pacer specifically for him I guess he would have a better chance, but why do that and have him in the race with all the big names? He could just run his own race with his own personal pacer and do that and not get in the way of the big names as they lap him...oh well. IMO, the only reason this is being done is for publicity for the meet, absolutely no other logical reason.

Same things were said of Gerry Lindgren when he ran against Ron Clarke. He gave him a run for his money.

Depending on what kind of shape Verzbicas is in, I think Fernandez's record is toast

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Depending on what kind of shape Verzbicas is in, I think Fernandez's record is toast

Good point, as per the Rupp thread, if Lukas is 100% healthy, not banged up or sick then he'll destroy that Fernandez record. Now, where's that Chet guy to spend 4 pages arguing that "depending on what kind of shape" someone is could be applied to anyone, when it everyone except intelligent understands what it means in context.

Isn't this kind of a stupid

statement? I mean if I were

running it you could say the

same thing: "well, depending

on what kind of shape he is in

Solinsky's record could be

toast." Unfortunately I am only

in 3430 shape so Solinsky has

nothing to worry about...for

now...

oh god please... not again

As stated, so he can get the best time possible and have a shot at the two mile record...he's not a miler, and it would be stupid for him to focus on that. I'm sure he will run sub-4 in the Dream Mile against high school competition.

The two mile is the best race for him at this point. He's only going to get one chance at breaking the record, and this is it.

LV's future is definitely the 5k and 10k. He's got the right combination of speed and strength, and he will only get faster and stronger if he doesn't get burned out at UO.