Andrew Wheating - Under 3:29 this season or not?

No.

Bottle of Dom Perignon

You should get odds on that.

If Wheating goes under 3:29 you get a double shot of Johnny Walker Blue.

If not you have to buy a can of Milwaukee's Best.

He will be lucky to break 3:39.

I'd say that he'd do it for sure, except that he suffered a calf injury in the winter and those have a tendency to recur. So, I'd say that it is a sure thing if he's healthy and can do the necessary speedwork at full strength.

jjjjjjjjjj wrote:

I'd say that he'd do it for sure, except that he suffered a calf injury in the winter and those have a tendency to recur. So, I'd say that it is a sure thing if he's healthy and can do the necessary speedwork at full strength.

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jjjjjjjjjj wrote:

I'd say that he'd do it for sure, except that he suffered a calf injury in the winter and those have a tendency to recur. So, I'd say that it is a sure thing if he's healthy and can do the necessary speedwork at full strength.

Are you saying it would be a sure thing that he would break 3:29? Some of you people are insane.

Well nobody on here has any idea, everything said are complete guesses. But my guess is that due to his injury he will not

3.27 high.

HSRrunna wrote:

Well nobody on here has any idea, everything said are complete guesses.

Really? Nobody has any idea?

What if the question was, "Under 3:19 this season or not?" Then would anybody have any idea?

How about, "Under 3:49 this season or not?"

Is 3:29 so special that it becomes impossible to have any idea?

I would guess (without having any idea, obviously) that many folks on these boards will have an idea as to whether Wheating will break 3:29 this season. (And I suspect that the knowledgeable ones will have an idea that the answer is "no".)

It's been 7 years since *anyone* broke 3:29 in the 1500m. Only 6 guys have ever done it. Even 3:30 has only been broken 3 times in the last 4 years, per the IAAF all-time list.

So pick *any* runner today, and the smart bet is that they don't break 3:29 this year. Same is true for Wheating.

Shame on you for taking advantage of your mentally challenged friend by making such a bet.

Unfortunately it does not work like that, becasue you ran a one time 3:30.9 chasing down the leaders, dosen't make you a legit 3:30 guy. A reasonalbe goal would be to run a PR closer to 3:30 flat and be a consistent 3:30/31 guy, which would put Wheating amoung the top-5 in the world and make him medal contender.

Although, Wheating's a big talent and I would not be too surprised if he ran under 3:30, but under 3:29 is asking a lot. You have to keep in mind that the faster you get the more difficult it becomes to lower your time and 3:30.9 is fast.

I think 2012 will be Wheating's year to do something magical.

I disagree with just 1 thing from TrackCoach's post.

Running 3:30.9 chasing down the leaders DOES make you a legit 3:30 guy. Doesn't matter how it happened, that it happened just once. He's run the time, he's a 3:30 guy. Let's not take that away from him. Consistency has nothing to do with being an "xyz" guy. Running a time at least once does.

I wonder how much not training until he was 16 or 17 or whatever it was will hurt him when he gets down to these insane times. He doesn't have the lifetime base that virtually all the sub 3:30 runners had leading up to their sub 3:30. I would think at some point, that will catch up with him. Other's thoughts on that?

Is this prediction based off of his amazing 1600 anchor leg?

My gut tells me that AW isn't even going to beat his PR from last year let alone get 3:29. And it always amuses me how so many on this board like to round down on a runner's time. It sounds good that AW ran 3:30 but he is really a 3:31 runner.

Its not even that I think AW will have a disappointing season. He may very well be a better all around runner. Its just that a lot has to go right with weather and all for a fast time. And also, that calf injury bothers me even though Wheating is playing it down.

ryan foreman wrote:

My gut tells me that AW isn't even going to beat his PR from last year let alone get 3:29. And it always amuses me how so many on this board like to round down on a runner's time. It sounds good that AW ran 3:30 but he is really a 3:31 runner.

Its not even that I think AW will have a disappointing season. He may very well be a better all around runner. Its just that a lot has to go right with weather and all for a fast time. And also, that calf injury bothers me even though Wheating is playing it down.

AW? Alan Webb? Just kidding. I'd be very surprised if Wheating broke 3:29 this year (I assume you mean 3:28.XX). In fact, I would be likely to give 4-1 odds or better and still feel pretty confident that I would collect. And, I'd be glad to be wrong.

I say he doesn't break 3:33 this year.

The original question should've been, "Can Wheating break 3:30 this season?" He is an immense talent, who only last year discovered his penchant for the 1500 and just had one international attempt at the distance. So, he is certainly capable of it, IF he has had a solid string of uninterrupted training. If not, then I would tend to agree that he won't revisit his PR from last year. But he is a runner with the potential to go 3:28 some day.

At least 3 things have to happen for any runner to run an outstanding performance.

1) they need to be fit and healthy

2) they need to be in the right race

3) they need to execute the race plan successfully

it will be difficult but not impossible for Andy to run 3:28.xx

i will say that he'll run under 3:30. people are reading too much into the DMR anchor that he ran. his only goal in that race was to win and he did. thats all that matters.