Coaches Ed Instructors- USATF vs USTFCCCA

The bios on the USATF site are comical. Many should read "Fired from ...."

There are certainly a few great ones on both sides, but the USATF roster is the weakest.

One of the funny things about the academy is that not once did the instructors say USATF or Level 2. They simply referred to "other programs." I've been to both and the Academy is head and shoulders above Level 2.

reality is that usatf coaching education is for the title alone. If you want to coach a US National team, you have to be a level 3 by USATF, so it's really just paying into a program to have a desired certificate in order to coach a National team. there are some great coaches out there who have earned USATF level 2's and 3's, and a lot of other coaches who have not. I don't think Vigil has any USATF certs. I know Bowerman didn't. Neither did Lydiard.

I think the USTFCCCA is doing a good job overall, and would like to see them take over USATF. I have heard good things about their programs that they offer, and if i felt like spending money to earn another cert, i'd go with the Coaches Association over USATF.

Btw, have you seen some of the USATF Level 1 teachers? It's almost laughable. I know some coaches who aren't very good, yet they're the teachers of these certs. it's laughable, really.

outlaw wrote:

Btw, have you seen some of the USATF Level 1 teachers? It's almost laughable. I know some coaches who aren't very good, yet they're the teachers of these certs. it's laughable, really.

definitely! I know a few that are very educated in physiology, and I give them credit, but their application and rationalization for their philosophy is quite bazaar... And the results reflect it.

i went to the ustfccca's certificate program at St John's and was impressed. I also have a level II certification. Boo Shexnayder is an amazing teacher I'll go to any program in which he is involved. I was impressed with the young coaches in attendance at the school. Our college athletes are in good hands with these coaches.