NCAA putting harsh rules on CAFFEINE?

I think that you have to drink a lot more than just 2 cups of coffee to reach the levels banned by the NCAA.

Deal with it

Coffee is very bad stuff.

It does nothing good for you. Also, coffee IS a carcinogen.

If you're addicted to caffeine, then the best thing is to see this as an opportunity to destroy that addition.

Here are just a few of the harmful effects of caffeine, not including the other toxins in coffee.

hardens the arteries

causes chronic high blood pressure

throws the thyroid hormones out of whack

destroys the adrenals

is a cause of arrythmia

can cause heart attacks

and sudden death syndrome

makes you irritable and cranky

makes you hyper

and thereby wears out the nerves and nervous system

is a cause of stomach ulcers

Just one story of many, I know a woman who this past year had surgery to try and remedy stomach ulcers from her drinking of coffee. She was slit from top to bottom in front and now has a big scar there as result. I asked her, why not just stop drinking coffee? She flipped out, hasn't said a word to me since, and still drinks coffee every day.

Source?

A Skeptic wrote:

Source?

Caffeine -- pay attention.

J.R. wrote:

A Skeptic wrote:

Source?

Caffeine -- pay attention.

I meant a citation to a credible source for all of those wild claims you were making about the adverse health effects of caffeine.

st. arbucks wrote:

She said something about caffeine and then went on to say that if you drink more than two cups of coffee, you will fail a NCAA drug test because you will test positive for high amounts of caffeine.

Unless the NCAA has dramatically changed its doping standards recently, her statement was inaccurate.

Check the NCAA doping standards. My guess is that you'll find that a test is not considered positive for caffeine doping if the concentration in a urine sample is less than 15 micrograms per milliliter. The amount of caffeine that needs to be ingested to reach that concentration will vary from person to person, depending largely on body mass, but I suspect that, for most adults, there is little danger of reaching that level if caffeine consumption is less than about 800 milligrams within two or three hours before the urine sample is given. I'm not a coffee drinker or a chocolate-covered coffee-bean eater, but you can find estimates of caffeine levels in various foods and drinks pretty easily. I think you'll find that the NCAA standards are rather generous.

Caffeine-doping is an interesting issue. I have little doubt that it can be a highly effective ergogenic aid at levels well below the thresholds set by the NCAA and other organizations, but its use by athletes is generally tolerated for cultural reasons.

From

http://www.stockton.edu/ospreys/ATDrugTesting.htm

quote

Caffeine

Caffeine intake is restricted (but not totally banned) by the NCAA. Urine concentrations up to 15 mcg/ml are permitted by the NCAA, about 500 mg of caffeine ingested within one hour would approximate this level in a normal adult male. Levels above this would result in a failed drug test.

Product Amount of Caffeine Equiv. in urine

1 cup of regular coffee 100 mg 1.5 mcg/ml

1 coke/ pepsi 46 mg .7 mcg/ml

1 No Doz 100 mg 1.5 mcg/ml

1 Vivarin 200 mg 3.0 mcg/ml

end quote

Curiously, WADA lifted it's restrictions shortly before the NCAA imposed theirs

Drink a cup of coffee before a hard tempo run or workout. You will be amazed with how well you will feel.

I don't doubt that coffee and caffeine can have adverse health effects, but most of the studies I've seen in recent years have suggested significant beneficial health effects of coffee (and perhaps caffeine) consumption.

I think as with any substance, its all about moderation. I have a small amount of coffee each day (3 oz)...However I see people drink huge amounts and drinking throughout the day, thats probably where you run into all the things listed earlier in this post.

Zero Gravity wrote:

From

http://www.stockton.edu/ospreys/ATDrugTesting.htm

quote

Caffeine

Caffeine intake is restricted (but not totally banned) by the NCAA. Urine concentrations up to 15 mcg/ml are permitted by the NCAA, about 500 mg of caffeine ingested within one hour would approximate this level in a normal adult male. Levels above this would result in a failed drug test.

Product Amount of Caffeine Equiv. in urine

1 cup of regular coffee 100 mg 1.5 mcg/ml

1 coke/ pepsi 46 mg .7 mcg/ml

1 No Doz 100 mg 1.5 mcg/ml

1 Vivarin 200 mg 3.0 mcg/ml

end quote

This is an odd passage. Although the text says "about 500 mg," the four examples suggest 1000 mg. From my admittedly vague recollection of the subject, the 500 mg estimate for a "normal adult male" doesn't sound accurate to me.

Maybe they are being conservative to stay within the limits?Also: since tea and yerba mate don't contain caffeine, I would think they are suitable substitutes.

Avocado's Number wrote:

Zero Gravity wrote:

From

http://www.stockton.edu/ospreys/ATDrugTesting.htm

quote

Caffeine

Caffeine intake is restricted (but not totally banned) by the NCAA. Urine concentrations up to 15 mcg/ml are permitted by the NCAA, about 500 mg of caffeine ingested within one hour would approximate this level in a normal adult male. Levels above this would result in a failed drug test.

Product Amount of Caffeine Equiv. in urine

1 cup of regular coffee 100 mg 1.5 mcg/ml

1 coke/ pepsi 46 mg .7 mcg/ml

1 No Doz 100 mg 1.5 mcg/ml

1 Vivarin 200 mg 3.0 mcg/ml

end quote

This is an odd passage. Although the text says "about 500 mg," the four examples suggest 1000 mg. From my admittedly vague recollection of the subject, the 500 mg estimate for a "normal adult male" doesn't sound accurate to me.

I really hope you are kidding. If not, then you are a complete idiot to put it mildly. Nobody should EVER listen to anything, and I mean anything, that you have to say.

Really odd the NCAA has a restriction on caffeine, but WADA/USADA does not.http://www.wada-ama.org/en/Science-Medicine/Prohibited-List/QA-on-2011-Prohibited-List/

What is the status of caffeine?

Caffeine was removed from the Prohibited List in 2004. Its use in sport is not prohibited.

Arguments that led WADA's stakeholders to take caffeine off the List in 2004 include research indicating that caffeine can potentially be performance-decreasing above the 12 microgram/ml threshold which was historically used in sport. Many experts believe that caffeine is ubiquitous in beverages and food and that reducing the threshold might therefore create the risk of sanctioning athletes for social or diet consumption of caffeine. In addition, caffeine is metabolized at very different rates in individuals.

Caffeine is part of WADA's Monitoring Program. This program includes substances which are not prohibited in sport, but which WADA monitors in order to detect patterns of misuse in sport. The 2010 Monitoring Program did not reveal global patterns of misuse of caffeine in sport. Caffeine will remain part of the Monitoring Program in 2011.

Something in the policy refers to "fairness" and I wonder if it's a concession to Mormon schools?

caffeine ftw wrote:

Really odd the NCAA has a restriction on caffeine, but WADA/USADA does not.

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Zero Gravity wrote:

Also: since tea and yerba mate don't contain caffeine, I would think they are suitable substitutes.

Wait... you think tea doesn't have caffeine in it? They why do they make decaffeinated tea?

nerp wrote:

Zero Gravity wrote:

Also: since tea and yerba mate don't contain caffeine, I would think they are suitable substitutes.

Wait... you think tea doesn't have caffeine in it? They why do they make decaffeinated tea?

Correct, tea has a lot of caffeine. Makes you wonder how some people can even figure out how to log onto here.

physicsman wrote:

nerp wrote:

Wait... you think tea doesn't have caffeine in it? They why do they make decaffeinated tea?

Correct, tea has a lot of caffeine. Makes you wonder how some people can even figure out how to log onto here.

let's just say tea is not their cup of tea