Dominguez and Bezabeh cleared, vindication!

The article said the judge threw out a case against world steeplechase champion Marta Dominguez for allegedly trafficking in performance-enhancing drugs.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5j8TZIKEMWuyT-ZRluvck8VGdMP6w?docId=CNG.ee79c99f0ccedb759ba44feb93280a92.c21

I think you will find that trafficking has a specific definition and she is not clear of all wrongdoing. The article also states she still under investigation for tax evasion and for allegedly administering medications without a licence. That isn't what I would call "cleared".

Regarding Bezabeh, perhaps the unethical coach was the guilty party. If so, is he facing charges? How much blood do you need to withdraw for testing purposes anyway?

No more flames about Solinsky, Symmonds, Rupp, and Wheating, o.k. you c***z ?

Oh great news.

Spains legion of dopers get the green light to do as they please.

I for one won't be cheering if Bezabeh or Dominguez (et al) manage to cheat anymore athletes out of medals. Filthy scumbags.

What testing entails extracting a bag of your own blood four weeks before the European Cross Country Championships and then being in possession of that bag in a hotel room a week before the competition.

For a guy who you clearly state has been taken advantage of and doesn't know his rights, its incredible that he has the astute intellect to be able to perform tests on "BAG" blood samples from the adhoc environment of a standard hotel room.

What tests are these, i'm interested to know why a bag of blood is needed? Also could you explain the four week incubation period is it to allow the sample to deteriorate and produce a poorer result, maybe he was standardising previous experiments, your input would be greatly appreciated.

excuse my ignorance, you clearly are very familiar with these procedures.

Bezabeh is a victim of circumstances, and he does not need to dope. Many Spanish agents were taking advantage of the semi literate Ethiopian. He acted in good faith.

Now, that he has been exonerated, he will be more mindful of the company he keeps, and he can progress in his career and attain the lofty heights he so deserves. None other than Gebremariam once mentioned (after Bezabeh's sub 13 mins 5000) that Bezabeh was going to be a great athlete, and those words don't come lightly from Gebremariam, (12.53/26.50/2.04.51).

When an athlete in need, such as Bezabeh, comes into an alien culture, it is easy for people around him to manipulate him. This is nothing new. He was new to the language and believed in the people around him. He was trusting and naive, like a small boy......

Let the poor athlete get on with his career now. He was thrown out of the Spanish High Performance Training camp, and had to move to less suitable lodgings in a working class district of Madrid, not conducive to training.

He deserves a second chance to vindicate his name.

Ghost in Saudi,

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He deserves a 2 year ban. Simple as.

See that bus? He should be under it. Just like the rest of his cheating mates.

A second chance to con honest athletes out of medals. I bet his fridge is packed with bags of blood as we speak.

I agree with you when he serves his two year suspension he should be clear to compete again. Let this be a lesson to him.

well its pretty obvious he's a nothing athlete as all his performances are drug aided. (or sorry bag of blood in a hotel for testing aided) I like the U turn you've taken here, your initial stance was that his bag of blood was for testing purposes, now its that he's being lead astray and doped up against his will. which one is it?

I quite dislike your stereotypical and racist view of African immigrants, so being poor and from Africa makes you a "small boy", socially inept and possessing such a low IQ that the ability to decipher right from wrong is beyond you.

What about all the poor athletes he's cheated out of medals and a living, My sympathy lies with them.

What's your view on poor Dominquez must be difficult being....

I agree with you when he serves his two year suspension he should be clear to compete again. Let this be a lesson to him.

well its pretty obvious he's a nothing athlete as all his performances are drug aided. (or sorry bag of blood in a hotel for testing aided) I like the U turn you've taken here, your initial stance was that his bag of blood was for testing purposes, now its that he's being lead astray and doped up against his will. which one is it?

I quite dislike your stereotypical and racist view of African immigrants, so being poor and from Africa makes you a "small boy", socially inept and possessing such a low IQ that the ability to decipher right from wrong is beyond you.

What about all the poor athletes he's cheated out of medals and a living, My sympathy lies with them.

What's your view on poor Dominquez must be difficult being....

This is how people like ghost work when it comes to certain athletes:

Accused of doping - Would never do such a thing, not in their genetics, don't have the money, too nice.

Caught doping - Taken advantage of, didn't know what they were doing, too trusting.

Accused of age cheating - Nation is more advanced than we think, they have records, would never do such a thing.

Caught age cheating - Nation is not very advanced, didn't know their own age, did it innocently.

I didn't say that (about African immigrants), but Ethiopia is far behind, Kenya for example, in education etc.....they do not use English medium for instruction in Ethiopia, so very few Ethiopians speak good English. This is nothing to do with IQ, but all to do with culture and opportunities - and Addis Ababa is way behind Nairobi in opportunities for education and life in general - in a word it is a struggle.

Not saying Bezabeh is stupid, but he only has a grade school education (primary school) and then had to work. When you are hungry to get ahead in life and have to put food on the table, you have to do what you do.....extrinsic rewards and pragmatism, supercede love intrinsic love for the sport.....like in Kenya, and that explains why you see many athletes in Africa only last a short career......

Believe me, no one in Spain had a bad word to say about Bezabeh....and even the lawyer involved in the case, felt sorry for the thin man from the highlands. To give an example of his (Bezabeh's) presumed innocence.....when he was 'apprehended' by the Guardia Civil, he (Bezabeh) still believed he would compete in the champs a few days later.....hardly the behaviour of a man who knows he was 'guilty' of an infraction....

Ghost in Saudi,

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It doesn't matter whether he intended to cheat or not. If he cheated, he should face the punishment. And it's hard to see a scenario where having a bag of your own blood in a hotel room was NOT the result of a plan to cheat.

the guy cheated and should be banned, i'd have all the money he has earned from athletics to date returned and a life ban but i'll just about tolerate a two year ban...

your title clearly states Dominguez as been vindicated, what happened to the poor woman? could you explain the circumstances which have lead to her wrongly being branded a cheat and how she has been lead astray, could you describe how her love of the sport lead her to supply and distribute PEDs with a view to profiting?

There is a fine line between taking advantage and blatant cheating. What about Radcliffe - some authorities argued that because she spent substantial periods sleeping in an altitude tent - that was analogous to cheating, and should not be tolerated.

Many performance enhancing substances are in fact legal, and so Dominguez, as far as we know, did not transgress.

The law has rendered its verdict and the two athletes should be allowed to continue their illustrious careers.

Ghost in Saudi,

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ghost wrote:

There is a fine line between taking advantage and blatant cheating. What about Radcliffe - some authorities argued that because she spent substantial periods sleeping in an altitude tent - that was analogous to cheating, and should not be tolerated.

But it's not cheating, according to the rules.

Blood transfusions like the filthy cheating scumbag Bezabeh is into are.

Bet his packed cells are packed and ready for another excellent season. Once dirty lying cheat, always a dirty lying cheat. Same for Dominguez.

Look no point arguing with you, I completely forgot that you are from Saudi Arabia and was giving you the benefit of the doubt that you might actually posses a moral compass, clearly i was mistaken.

Being a dirty filthy cheat is probably fine where your from where being a homosexual results in being stoned to death and stealing an apple results in having your hand chopped off. Guess your views are somewhere in line with that thinking so i'll put it a way you may interpret, Bezabeh and Dominquez are stealing the food out of the mouths of the honest working athlete in your culture don't you think some kind of capital punishment is in order.

By the way i'm stereotyping the public perception of the average Saudi Arabian just like you have stereotyped the average African immigrant, my views are not in line with the statement above but you clearly are incapable of making a rational decision as you base your reasoning on faith not fact so i'll do the same with you.

It's not too surprising that their isn't too much adultery (the women get stoned to death), divorce (women get stoned to death), suicide (probably because a woman might get stoned to death and these things won't be recorded by the dispicable regime), drug addiction (probably a death penalty involved), homosexuality (it's illegal and punishable by hanging, pretty harsh maybe?). Do you think homosexuality is wrong?

Do you think doping is wrong?

Saudi Arabia is a vile country, I'm not attacking Islam here. Just Saudi. Absolutely vile.

After the Spanish Athletics Federation exonerated the filthy cheat Bezabeh, common sense has now prevailed and the Spanish sporting disciplinary committee has given him the correct ban of 2 years.

Good for them.

Here's a link to the story:

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/olympics/2011-06-10-835033293_x.htm

Apparently they did not buy his story that he was a naive dupe.

You've proven your ignorance with this post. I like how you slip homosexuality into a list of things that are bad. Come out of the closet Ghost, you'll be a much happier person.