highest mileage d1 teams

what are you going to cry about the truth. get some balls and go out there and run a little more, you'll see for yourself. Seriously, find me ONE Kenyan or african distance guy that genuinely doesnt run "twice a day every day, except on Christmas" to quote one of the great of our time. You are fooling yourself, and frankly you are PART OF THE REASON Americans fell behind the Africans. Nut up BOYS and maybe you'll become MEN. I am not saying that to be a jerk, its just a challenge. run those 100mpw and see, the proof is in the pudding. And its mighty tasty

I don't think you are understanding the formula. You by less I don;t mean less of an EFFORT. you run harder and faster. I mean LESS mileage. The human body is really only made to handle around 60 miles efficiently. after that the Marginal return increase at a rapidly decreasing rate. Probs losing all benefit after about 85. anyways you are probs a troll, so I not going to bother explaining any further

sorry to rain on your parade wrote:

what are you going to cry about the truth. get some balls and go out there and run a little more, you'll see for yourself. Seriously, find me ONE Kenyan or african distance guy that genuinely doesnt run "twice a day every day, except on Christmas" to quote one of the great of our time. You are fooling yourself, and frankly you are PART OF THE REASON Americans fell behind the Africans. Nut up BOYS and maybe you'll become MEN. I am not saying that to be a jerk, its just a challenge. run those 100mpw and see, the proof is in the pudding. And its mighty tasty

Ummmm, look up a certain Silas Kisorio. 50-60 mpw tops, one of the best runners in the nation from Oklahoma Christian University and one of my teammates

how does that link show anything? yeah he is fast, and your "teammate", but where does it say his mileage? I am just saying, if he runs that fast he is clearly running low 100mpw, and if not, he has INCREDIBLE untapped potential.

[quote]D1 what wrote:

I mean there are programs like Oregon, that consistently get their guys in the 120+ crowd, but honestly their group of runners is probably the most inconsistent in the country, when talking about big programs that is.quote]

Sorry. Oregon is no where near "consistently get their guys in the 120+ crowd." You do not know what you are talking about. Some hit 100 during base. I personally know numerous athletes who ran for U of O in every decade since and including the 1960's. They are consistently in the 70 to 85 type program.

Is he running NAIA because of some blatant NCAA violations? My guess is either he was a pro, OR he is 30. I mean, why would an athlete like that dodge competition on purpose?

You have a sciatic nerve problem and want to run over 100mpw. I think your coach is right to have you at 70mpw if not under that. Get the nerve problem fixed and then think about moving the mileage up. Why would you switch schools? Your injured, your coach lowers your mileage and you want to switch schools...

That post was a red flag, but you had me interested in the thread so I give you a 7/10

listen to your coach wrote:

You have a sciatic nerve problem and want to run over 100mpw. I think your coach is right to have you at 70mpw if not under that. Get the nerve problem fixed and then think about moving the mileage up. Why would you switch schools? Your injured, your coach lowers your mileage and you want to switch schools...

That post was a red flag, but you had me interested in the thread so I give you a 7/10

Dude, you've gotten ian edwards and the OP mixed up.

research wrote:

...You are talking about one of the most important decisions in your life and you didn't bother to take the time to find out what kind of program you were going to? Unbelievable.

The track/XC program at your college is NOT one of the most important decisions in your life unless you expect to be successful as a professional runner. There are perhaps a dozen folks each year entering college for whom such expectations would not be pure fantasy. This is as opposed to thousands for whom their college running should be seen as a nice sideline to their real college experience, which is focused on getting a good education.

I would hope the OP put in a whole lot more effort into research regarding the academic, study abroad, and internship opportunities of his/her school than into researching the running program.

To the OP, I know who you are as well. You really haven't had a bad year...some good races in cross and although I know your big 3K indoors was disappointing you ran a pretty good one a couple weeks before that. Not sure what kind of times you were hoping for this year, but I think you've done alright. Your coach has a good team year in and year out, I'd say he knows his stuff.

blah blah. wrote:

This is the stupid argument the high mileage crowd always uses. "They don´t count this, they don´t count that". I would like to see your source on Rupp´s training. Why the hell would elite runners, in our time when everybody is so caught up in every little detail, not count all the miles they do each week? You pretend to have a lot of insight in this: "EVERYONE ON THE INSIDE::" BLAH BLAH. Give us credible sources or quit talking a lot of bs.

You are just flat out insecure. Just because you dont understand it doesnt mean it is wrong. Maybe that is why they are enjoying such success while you are only succeeding in being a moronic ass.

You want proof?

I am running for an aforementioned school on this board, and I have been subjected to badger miles in my travels. I can tell you that what "sorry to rain on your parade" is 100% accurate. Those "Badger miles" were made famous by schumacher while he was at Wisconsin(hence badger). Now Schumacher more or less COACHES HALF OF THE TOP NIKE DISTANCE ATHLETES WITH THESE SAME BADGER MILES(flanagan, sholinksy, teg, bombalough, jager). Chris sholinsky and his Badass 26:59/12:55(AR/#2US), teg's 12:56 (#4 us all time), jager making world championship at age 20 or something, bombalough's rediculous time drops, Flanagan having an insane season: all of badger miles aka not counting all their milage. Oh and with sholinsky, since he graduated high school, he has done NOTHING BUT these so called 'badger miles'.

They do not count all of their milage becuase unlike you, they realize that milage is somewhat/sometimes extremely psychological. Mileage is really just arbitrary, you start at some point and gradually increase to another point. To get to the nitty gritty, mileage and even time are not essentially what matters, it is your body and how it feels/responds that you need to key off of.

If you want to see how talented you are run moderate mileage (50-70), but if you want to see how good you can be run high mileage ( at least 80+).

With that being said, there are right and wrong ways to both methods. It is very difficult to run high mileage in the college system due to the three demanding seasons a year. To properly run high mileage it is recommended to run 5-10 weeks of just base work where very little quality is thrown in. Without this crucial phase it will be much harder for your body to adapt to the high mileage as well as the intensity of workouts.

Biggest mistake made at high mileage that destroys the potential effects of the work is not recovering, aka running too hard on easy days.

the OP just asked a serious question: What NCAA teams run the highest mileage?

He doesn't care what you think about high/low mileage effectiveness. He wants to run a lot in college. If that doesn't go along with what your college program does than so be it. You don't have to convince him that he is wrong.

I'm pretty sure we are looking for a list here something like...

Stanford

Oklahoma

Colorado

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STOP USING ONE F#CK1NG EXAMPLE TO PROVE YOUR ARGUMENT! Of course there are going to be some people who do well w/ low mileage (lagat) and others that do well with high (rodgers). What is the trend??? ...high mileage the VAST majority of the time. There is always going to be examples that prove a point. That is not a good way to argue.

come on guys this isnt a guessing game, lets keep names out of this...obviously the op doesnt want to be named

all they want to know is who are the highest mileage teams!! there should be any other debate here

lkjsdlfkjlsalk wrote:

STOP USING ONE F#CK1NG EXAMPLE TO PROVE YOUR ARGUMENT! Of course there are going to be some people who do well w/ low mileage (lagat) and others that do well with high (rodgers). What is the trend??? ...high mileage the VAST majority of the time. There is always going to be examples that prove a point. That is not a good way to argue.

You replied to my post, but maybe you were referencing a different post?

Maybe it wasn't clear, but I am for high mileage. Talented runners can get away with less and it may seem like the low mileage is working for them, but they would probably be even better at high mileage as long as they can stay healthy and train consistently.

Do you realize that this is what makes so many people have a miserable college experience. If you are good enough to go to a top D1 school and plan on being on the team for 4 years, you had better do as much research about the running program as the academics. You spend more time with your teammates and your coach than anyone else. You miss class time and social time because of practicing and traveling. If you are unhappy with the running program, it is going to affect your academics and every other area of your life

What an absurd statement to make that you should just be focusing on academics when you make your college choice, especially for an elite level runner. There are many excellent academic schools that also would fit your needs as an athlete. Do some research and find that school. It will take some work, but as I said, your college decision is one of the most important decisions you make in your life. It sets you up for the rest of your life. A miserable college experience, whether it be socially, athletically, academically, etc., is going to change so many things in your life. A great college experience is also going to change so many things in your life, for the better. Do your research when looking for a college, and that means in every aspect of the school, not just academics. This person did not do that and he is unhappy. Do you honestly not think this will affect him negatively in other ways. I honestly feel bad for the 1000's of kids that took the advice of people like you and ended up with 4 years of misery, when a little research could have given them 4 great years and set them up for the rest of their life, which college does.

Really, well do you want me to cite to the big "bump" people get from go to HS to College. What do you think it is all in there "new state of mind" NO its from hitting those 100mpw. OR do I cite to the untapped talent that ALL of us have personally seen on our teams. I mean what do you want me to do NOT cite the runners it works best for. Should I be citing my buddy stephan that dropped 30 seconds in his 5K when he started hitting those 100mpws. WHAT IS THE EVIDENCE YOU WANT? Because it is out there, and I'll show it to you.100mpw works PERIOD. run more, you run faster. END OF STORY. there is no easy 'merican fix here. No short cut will get you to this finish line man, sorry. I mean its not like only running 70 mpw will make you than not running at all. Im not saying that. I am just pointing out the simple fact that it is a cop out to say running more will not make you better. It is a universal thruth. And 100mpws get you to you FULL potential

the rocket. wrote:

the OP just asked a serious question: What NCAA teams run the highest mileage?

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I'm pretty sure we are looking for a list here something like...

Stanford

Oklahoma

Colorado

...

William & Mary has been known for having a LOT of guys going high mileage over the years. Gibby (is that his name?) is now at Michigan, presumably doing what he has done all along.

OP, from a couple of people who seem to know who you are, they are suggesting schools in the Great Lakes area...check out Michigan.