Should I get flats for training?

get rid of the built up bricks that you've been using and switch to flats

nike streak xc 2s

so you're saying it doesn't even matter that I overpronate?

by the way, I'm a freshmen high school runner and though we haven't had a meet yet, I expect to run around 4:50s. What would you guys consider to be best for my needs mainly out of hyper speed 4s, streak xcs, or adizero rockets, the other two options still apply but they are more expensive and seem kind of odd.

Since you are training in an Asics shoe, I would try the Hyperspeed first. I use the Streak XC 2, and I love it, but I also train in a Nike shoe (Pegasus). The Hyperspeed is also a bit more substantial than the Streak XC 2 so i'd start there.

Also look into the Brooks T7, a lot of people like that shoe.

I overpronate and have found that neutral flats with a heel that is too soft causes near instant knee pain. I thought that the Hyperspeeds were a little soft for my tastes. The Adidas Mana and Adios work very well for me. My view is that a post is nearly the same as having a firm heel so the DS Racer should work too. I don't know about the other models you mentioned.

Would those shoes have the same effects as the other flats? It seems like it would only be lighter, but I'd still be forced to heel strike and everything.

Try a flat with some support or lighter weight trainer before jumping right to shoe with no support. If you like Asics Ds trainer or Ds racer. Other flats are Brooks ST or Saucony fastwich.

I second the DS Racer 8 if you're an ASICS runner already and you like the shoes enough. If you have a narrow foot, the Nike Streak 3 might be a nice option with a touch of support on it.

Even if I'm only using the shoe for interval training? I'm not using it for all my training.

do yourself a favor... nike streak xc II. best flats you'll ever run in and they are affordable.

i'm flat footed and over pronate and i don't have any troubles in them. im also a forefoot runner.

get them and you'll be running a lot better. im thinking of buying a couple more pairs and do more running in them.

haywood jablome wrote:

do yourself a favor... nike streak xc II. best flats you'll ever run in and they are affordable.

i'm flat footed and over pronate and i don't have any troubles in them. im also a forefoot runner.

get them and you'll be running a lot better. im thinking of buying a couple more pairs and do more running in them.

Do you do all your training in them? or just speedwork

I'm thinking about buying hyper speeds and nike streak xcs from runningwarehouse and returning the one I don't like or both of them if they cause pain. I would also like to try the mana but i don't have anywhere to go to try the shoes on and i don't want to buy a bunch of shoes just to return all of them.

Hey haywood... what type of running do you do in the streak xc? I've only used them for track workouts, but would like to know how they hold up for longer tempos and fartleks.

i use my streak xcs for long intervals. like mile repeats i'll do half in the xc's then switch to victories for the second half. i'll use them for threshold runs of 8-9 miles where i start off around 6:10s and do the last 4 miles in around 21ish. I'll use them for regular runs if i feel like having a lil pep in my step but i'll still keep the pace easy like 6:30-40.

actually yesterday i used them for an hour run and ran 6:10s and it felt like 6:30s.

i just think they are good for running in general. yes they are very light but in the forefoot area you'll def feel a lil bounce/return in them. i wouldn't know how the heel feels cuz my heel never touches the ground. i also try to run in grass as much as possible. i hope this helps.

Sounds like they have held up well for you on longer runs. I know some elites use them for half marathons, so I'll have to give them a try for some of my tempos, etc.

brooks t7 are hardly flats, huge heel toe drop

Anybody know about the mana? I've heard it's really hard and it has a large heel toe drop so i'm not sure about it. But it's supposed to provide a little bit more support for overpronators. For people who know about it is it worth trying or should i just order hyper speeds and streak xcs and return the ones i don't prefer. I would just go with the hyper speeds, but i'm going to need racing shoes for the next cross country season and i think the streak xcs might work well.