Do you think Lance Armstrong will ever admit to doping?

Yes that's right I did! What are you going to do about it!

Now STFU before I put down my 64 calorie Michelob and kick

get your IP address and come over to kick your ass.

In a world in which only 39% (Gallup, 2009) of Americans believe in evolution, I highly doubt that the case against Lance will ever be 99.9% proven, whatever that means.

And no, I don't think he'll ever admit it.

No.

Even if it is proven without a shadow of doubt, his hordes of mindless followers won't believe it anyway.

They already believe that he's the victim of a cruel conspiracy to blacken his name.

No.

Lance is of the same mold as Roger Clemens. They will deny deny deny deny and then deny. Their strategy is that the best defense is a good offense.

Most pro athletes will keep denying until the day they die.

proof is coming wrote:

The thread with all of the Nike commercials had many links to Lance Armstrong-Nike commercials. They all showed him to be such a good guy and non-doper. It got me to thinking...we all know he was a doper, and more and more evidence is coming out against him. Someday, it will be 99.9% proven he doped. The question is, will he actually admit to it himself, to finally come clean?

You are a tard.......he is the most tested ahtlete of all time. He was tested every day of every race he rode in for 7 years and passed them all. GTFOH.

ccrunner609 wrote:

You are a tard.......he is the most tested ahtlete of all time. He was tested every day of every race he rode in for 7 years and passed them all. GTFOH.

Exhibit A

proof is coming wrote:

The thread with all of the Nike commercials had many links to Lance Armstrong-Nike commercials. They all showed him to be such a good guy and non-doper. It got me to thinking...we all know he was a doper, and more and more evidence is coming out against him. Someday, it will be 99.9% proven he doped. The question is, will he actually admit to it himself, to finally come clean?

He allowed himself to undergo physiological testing many times during the peak of his career, something you never see doped athletes, not even the smiling cheats from North and East Africa.

Darnell wrote:

No.

Lance is of the same mold as Roger Clemens. They will deny deny deny deny and then deny. Their strategy is that the best defense is a good offense.

Do you expect someone to admit to something they've never done? What if he was not doping? The man possesses superior physiology, not to mention drive, intelligence, and courage- heck, he could compete with professional triathletes at the age of 15!

I have yet to see proof beyond reasonable doubt that he is guilty of doping. Accusations, unbelievable performances, guilt by association and an accusation made by a French tabloid doesn't cut it.

That whole ed coyle pr stunt, oh i mean scientific article, was discredited in From Lance To Landis, anyone who hasn't read that book needs to if they want to have either a negative or positive opinion of lance. Basically they established that lance has never reached his lofty vo2 max figures he keeps telling everyone about, and that his vo2 max is actually quite ordinary, but then again, i suppose they need some bullshit physiological explanation to explain away his unrealistic improvement.

Of course he doped, but I doubt he'll ever admit it.

Must be something about Texas that breeds serial liars:LanceClemensrojo/wejoGeorge W. Bush

Darnell wrote:

No.

Lance is of the same mold as Roger Clemens. They will deny deny deny deny and then deny. Their strategy is that the best defense is a good offense.

Unfortunately both sides payed their witnesses (the SCO trial) so nothing is credible as a result. Same with Walsh's books. Maybe this grand jury will turn up some witnesses who aren't out to make a buck

My buddy is a Pa State Trooper.

His advice - even if you are caught red-handed doing ANYTHING is to Deny, Deny, Deny....eventually a shadow of doubt will cross the mind of even the person catching you with your fingers in the cookie jar. For third parties, not actually witnessing an event, it's your word against the accusers'.

Lance will deny forever...can't say that I blame him.

Wasn't Coyle's research on Lance taken to task for faulty methods or some such? Wait...here we go:http://www.sportsscientists.com/2008/09/coyle-and-armstrong-research-errors.htmlhttp://www.sportsscientists.com/2008/09/coyle-armstrong-research-installment-2.htmlCoyle comes off as having even less integrity than Lance does. From the SoS's summary: "In response to it all, Coyle is quoted in the New York Times as saying: “This is a minor waste on my time. However, I don’t understand how they can afford to spend so much time on this. Don’t they have real jobs?”I suppose one would put this down to opinion, but as I wrote the other, I would say that as a scientist, your "real job" is to pursue scientific truth. So in fact, they did exactly what they were supposed to. It doesn't seem that the same applied in 2005 when the (Coyle's) study was done."

And Heretiz wrote:

proof is coming wrote:

The thread with all of the Nike commercials had many links to Lance Armstrong-Nike commercials. They all showed him to be such a good guy and non-doper. It got me to thinking...we all know he was a doper, and more and more evidence is coming out against him. Someday, it will be 99.9% proven he doped. The question is, will he actually admit to it himself, to finally come clean?

He allowed himself to undergo physiological testing many times during the peak of his career, something you never see doped athletes, not even the smiling cheats from North and East Africa.

http://www.edb.utexas.edu/coyle/armstrong.php

And how were his results during these quite short periods. Doping is not an all year round day in and day out. Cycles of testosterone may be planned years in advance, epo is out of the system rather quickly, but then again if you establish a baseline where he is doped to the gills from the get go, of course he can "pass" that test. Barry Bonds would pass it. It is like the fox guarding the hen house, I am going to hire a Dr. who it is his best interest, and employment, to keep my tests clean to test me. Umm this seems fair.

Go to cyclingnews, the clinic, read up, and tell us he's clean.

Will he ever admit... WHOA! Wait a minute! Wow, you almost got me there! I guess... in order to answer your question I have to tacitly assert Armstrong DOPED! Brilliant!

Without that tactical mastertroke, we all might have just put you down as yet another angry little boy who just can't stand Armstrong or that anyone might believe him.

But I think we can all clearly see now that in you we have found a subtle intelligence never yet encountered. Obviously, Armstrong doesn't stand a chance against the likes of you. It's only a matter of days until he slips up and when he does, you will be there to nail him. Right to the wall

Well done sir. Well done indeed.

Haters hate... it's what they do.