STOTAN RACING

My guess is more than half the responses here are by Stotan people. That would explain why they are so quick to defend their program. Personally, I don't see one negative post here.

no negative posts on a letsrun message board?! WHAT?? refreshing. noticed jesse berube from geneseo on their roster. his brother Lee is doing some great things and if he joins in a year or two that would be a pick up/is mike heyman a senior?

I'll be the first downer. they are going no where without some more good marathoners. and 1:49 and 1:50 guys wont do anything unless they all move up.

...that Bill and John are both watching this thread like a hawk, so I would watch what you say about their team. Perhaps they are all "running hard, being strong, and thinking big." Although that would not explain why they have at least 5 less athletes than they did a few months ago and even up to a few weeks ago.

Where is Andrew McCann, Michael Pierce, Kaitlin O'Sullivan, and Emily LaSala? Funny they are no longer on the roster. That's a lot of talent to pass through in only a few months. That's fantastic that one of their runners has a 2.5 minute marathon PR. There's nothing negative to say about that. But my question would be, not only have 5 talented runners come and go without any real mentioning (some having moved across the country to join the group), but out of the runners that are left, how many of them are uninjured or have not been sidelined for weeks/months since joining?

Are you insinuating that post collegians may in fact NOT want to be treated just like high schoolers. . .Well, that's something I've never thought of before. . . Crazy, isn't it?

Hi guys. John Aris writing, and yes we are watching, but no not like hawks. i am far too busy with work and coaching. We actually love the thread so far, but of course expecting it to take a turn for the worst as always. As Rojo and Wejo correctly stated the last time this happened, if you're being smashed around on Letsrun, you're doing something right.

As we are on very good terms with those mentioned (yes, no longer with us), I will be happy to say that we think the world of them, and couldn't be happier that they have found career paths that they have dreamed of taking. Andrew McCann is family to my father and I, and he had the good fortune of being offered a job with Mizuno...landing him in Atlanta. Kaitlin was offreed a job in NYC in fashion design...a dream of hers which we were happy to see her pursue. Michael is one of the best people I know...and we enjoyed his time with us emmensely. What a talent! Sometimes cross country trips become stressors in people's lives, especially when that trip lands hem i. The snow capital of the US! this past winter has been perhaps the worst I have ever seen in Syracuse...finally over thank God!!!

We wish every one of these people well, and the truth is that the life of the post colleiate runner is not easy! Sometimes it doesn't work out, and sometimes it does. it should come as no surprise that injuries are a part of sports, life choices, career paths, etc. we support these people in life success as well as running success. It is a reality also that success must come by way of performance, or else why do we coach a post collegiate group?! We are very, very pleased with our growth in 2010 and early 2011. My father and I will continue to do all that we can to support and guide young adult talent to the very top should their hearts, minds, souls, and bodies allow and desire it!

Can't wait to keep reading, and while eventually these threads nearly always turn sour, I am impressed that it has stayedpositive for this long!

For any interested post collegiate runners, please visit our website at

www.stotaracing.com

. We have a very inspiring group, and we are hopeful that one day we can join the ranks of the great McMillan Elite's, Hanson's, etc...it is upon their models that we have started!

We have a long way to go, and appreciate all the support we have gotten thus far.

All the best!

John

Sorry! Would be nice if I typed our own website spelled correctly!

www.stotanracing.com

Keep driving for success!

Coach, thanks for taking the time to write that. I always appreciate when you guys come on here, and your post was balanced, respectful, and positive. I wouldn't have been so gracious. Looks like the others may have seen they weren't going to go very far and chose a different path in life? This happens all the time, in every group. The Hansons go through guys like candy. Seems like the right decision if a runner isn't getting the job done. So few make it to the top. It is ok to walk away from it if you don't see a career in running worth while.

I was really excited when I first heard that the Arises were taking on post collegians and am also thrilled to see they have helped some good, competitive, and driven DIII guys keep their careers going a little longer. I was wondering if there are any big names, or relatively bigger names heading to Stotan in the foreseeable future? Any chance some of those former NY high school greats head back to NY (Murdock, BRD, Gruenwald) Seems to me if I was a guy on the cusp of making it this would be a good place to go, I would trust my training to these guys.

I love how as soon as John Aris tells it like it is the haters are silenced.

Believe what you want to believe.

Wrong. Joslyn was a 14:27/29:55 guy out of Cortland. During his time at Hanson's, his best performance was 1:05:28 at the Shamrock 1/2mth VA race.

Regardless of whether or not this team produces 2 Olympic Trials Qualifiers or 20 the fact that this team exists is great for our sport. For US distance running to continue to become more competitive at the world level, we need teams to develop from the club level up. I really see no downside to having more teams like this developing; John actually brings up a good point, if people are bashing Stotan it means they have some relevancy in our sport otherwise no one would take the time to post about them.

Keep up the good work! And best of success!!

The Biggest Boss wrote:

I love how as soon as John Aris tells it like it is the haters are silenced.

Not too many people on this thread are hating, they are just asking legitmate questions. It's not necessary to assume that just because people in the running community are curious about what is happening with some talented runners in an up and coming team that every question is meant to be a stab. I simply ask out of concern and interest being an NCAA runner and looking to run post-collegiately myself after I graduate. That website does not give any information other than who is currently running. That is how I knew those names were dropped in the first place. It's nice to hear they are finding success and happiness outside of running and training, although an essay in defense of a few basic questions is a bit much.

Most elite clubs seem to focus on track events, would be nice to see Stotan grow into a marathoning/road racing team. Seems as though they have a couple people to start that with.

Coffee added wrote:

Wrong. Joslyn was a 14:27/29:55 guy out of Cortland. During his time at Hanson's, his best performance was 1:05:28 at the Shamrock 1/2mth VA race.

I am not a Hansons slappy but his 1:05:28 is still his best performance of his career. According to Mercier scoring taables it is equal to 2:17:55 in the marathon. I am sure that it may be different on other tables but anyone that acts like he has improved since leaving Hansons is wrong.

I saw your boys warming up very fast 20 minutes prior to the men's xc nats race and they looked strong. The more post collegian teams the better, and with what has gone on at FM over the past years, and what I heard about from someone with experience of the program, I think that it is a great thing that you guys are running this program.

That is true. The half is very good. Not sure i agree with mercier, but at worst the performances are close. There is a difference though. The trials, and games, run a marathon. Histoy tells that his best marathon, and best chance to do well at the trials, is now. He is a better marathoner now than ever before. So saying he has improved in the distance that he'll have to acually race in houston, the pertinent distance, is in fact very true...in terms of hitory, that is.

Comparing Joslyn's half PR of 1:05:28 and full PR of 2:18:49, they are similar, but the marathon was in a race that he won by over 7 minutes. Seems clear he is a stronger runner now.