Low mileage training..is it just Batty?

I know for a fact that Miles Batty runs big miles. His real name is Greg Batty and he got the name Miles because of the big miles he put in high school.

Miles Batty runs high mileage with all the extra energy he has from not having sex.

This is a great subject. They said the other day that Lagat only trains 6 days a week one session a day. However he runs nearly every session hard. I would imagine that his mileage is fairly low as well especially for a 5000m guy. Does anyone out there have any info on this?

Mon: AM: 20 minute jump roping

PM: 30 minute run @ 6 min pace + 8" of high knees

Tue: AM: 30 minute jump roping

PM: 8 x 400 @ 57-58, 2 minute recover

Wed: AM: Stair workout

PM: 40 x 50 meter hill @97% effort

Thu: AM: yoga

PM: jiujitsu

Fri: AM: 1 mile @ 4:05 + 5 miles recovery pace

PM: pray

Sat: Race, or basketball for cross training

Sun: Jesus time

They usually estimate the 20 minute jump roping to be equivalent of about 5 miles because of the effort, so that keeps the volume up.

The think about lagat is that he already has years of training, so he can get away with low milage. Batty will burn out soon.

technoisback wrote:

Mon: AM: 20 minute jump roping

PM: 30 minute run @ 6 min pace + 8" of high knees

Tue: AM: 30 minute jump roping

PM: 8 x 400 @ 57-58, 2 minute recover

Wed: AM: Stair workout

PM: 40 x 50 meter hill @97% effort

Thu: AM: yoga

PM: jiujitsu

Fri: AM: 1 mile @ 4:05 + 5 miles recovery pace

PM: pray

Sat: Race, or basketball for cross training

Sun: Jesus time

They usually estimate the 20 minute jump roping to be equivalent of about 5 miles because of the effort, so that keeps the volume up.

Is this Battys workout schedule or Lagats or some one else completely?

Batty's. I'm in the MWC so I am familiar with their typical week.

i heard batty does 4 miles a week with just tons of lifting

The notion of low mileage training with high payoff is ridiculous. There is no way Miles Batty won the DMR for BYU on only 30 miles a week.

I have also heard that Lagat runs low mileage but I am not sure I believe this either. If it works for him it is because 1) he is an enormously talented runner and 2) as he has aged his body has a harder time recovering from high mileage weeks so he has to do fast low mileage. It only works for him because of the races he is in (kick for the win). In any honest race he will be beaten.

Lagat runs about 50 mpw but only counts mileage under 5:30 pace. So he runs 50 miles a week under 5:30 pace... most "high mileage" guys on this site can't do that.

????? wrote:

Is this Battys workout schedule or Lagats or some one else completely?

Dude...it's a joke.

The last time I checked I was the coach at BYU?

That being said, think about my background, and then ask the question if Miles does low volume?

lagat fan wrote:

The think about lagat is that he already has years of training, so he can get away with low milage. Batty will burn out soon.

please explain this more.

Only a few people can be Miles Batty.

Many, many people can be Bruce Hyde.

Nuff said.

shoe guy wrote:

Lagat runs about 50 mpw but only counts mileage under 5:30 pace. So he runs 50 miles a week under 5:30 pace... most "high mileage" guys on this site can't do that.

Can someone explain what this means? He only counts miles under 5:30 does that mean that he runs an extra 30 miles over 5:30 or does that mean that he excludes warm up and cool downs etc.?

Some crazy runner guy wrote:

This is a great subject. They said the other day that Lagat only trains 6 days a week

Who is "they"?

The keys to making low mileage work (1) make every mile count, and (2) maximizing recovery.

Take a good, hard look at any published marathon training plan. Generally, they consist of 2 quality speed days (track or intervals on Tuesday, a power or tempo run on Thursday) and a long run on the weekend, plus “filler” miles run at easy paces and XT days to fill out 6-10 workouts over 6-7 days of the week.

The low-mileage philosophy is that the quality and long days are what maximize adaptation to running, and that the extra work just pads your eqo about your mileage count and pharks up your recovery.

So a low-mileage plan INCREASES the quality of the three runs, and cuts out the other 3-7 runs to maximize recovery. You actually work HARDER at a low-mileage plan, and reduce your risk of repetitive stress injury because you’re running 3 days a week instead of 6-7. The mileage reduction comes from killing the “conversational pace” jog/walks. In essence, the low-mileage plan is for those who enjoy COMPETING and not JOGGING, for those who enjoy TESTING THEMSELVES and not the beauteous feel of an early morning relaxing run.

Here’s an example plan.

Instead of running intervals at 10K pace on Tuesday for a total of 3-4 miles or so, do a TIME TRIAL of 5K at 5K pace (which is maybe 20 sec/mile below 10K pace). Hold that pace for extra distance, and when you can make 3.5 miles at it, increase that pace by maybe 5 sec/mile.

Instead of running 6 miles at tempo pace on Thursday, run a TIME TRIAL of 10K at 10K pace (20 sec/mile above 5K pace). Do this distance and nothing more. You are using the Tuesday run to determine when/if you change your paces.

The long run on the weekend alternates between two different styles of run, one each weekend.

First is marathon pace run (50 sec/mile slower than 10K pace or 70 sec/mile slower than 5K pace) for as many miles as you can hold it, try to push this to 18+.

Second is conversational pace (below MP) and use the TIME you expect to be in a marathon (26.2/MP) as your duration. This is to adapt your body to being on your feet for that long.

EVERY OTHER DAY IS OFF. THAT MEANS MONDAY, WEDNESDAY, FRIDAY, AND ONE DAY ON THE WEEKEND ARE ALL OFF.

I think you can agree that this plan is both LOW-MILEAGE and significantly HARDER than most high-mileage plans. But it includes much more recovery time and will amply prepare you for racing at any distance from 5K to marathon. The mileage reduction comes from eliminating the runs that do the LEAST to adapt your body to running a race distance at a race pace, i.e. the “easy 3-6 milers” that make up one-third to one-half of the mileage in a traditional plan.

jesus christ. To the people actually taking this thread seriously, it's a a joke. To the people making the joke, it's not funny.

What power runner is saying makes a lot of sense.

I am doing "INSANITY" in the mornings with my wife and don't have the time to get big mileage in. I intend to give the TT plan a try. The long run might break me though. So I think I'll make the long run either LSD or a 10 mile "to the barn".

My current fitness is probably a little worse than my last half marathon in November in 1:16. I'll post progress in a few weeks.