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    • old face andre
      • Doug Logan Lawsuit - USATF being petty? 12/23/2010 4:14PM
      • old face andre
      • Reading through the story posted on the front page, I just get the feeling that USATF is being petty with this whole Doug Logan situation. Some of their claims may have merit (obviously I'm not a lawyer, nor am I privy to their documents), but it just reeks of a divorce where the party "in the wrong" just tries to smear the hell out of the other party. USATF seems to be throwing out the most random stuff AFTER the fact, making it seem like they didn't do their homework before termination. Shocking, I know.

        Now Logan isn't a paragon of professional behavior either(Fantasia...hilarious), but it seems like because he didn't rubber stamp everything the board did he got canned. It's going to be interesting to see how this all plays out...
    • truthsayer
      • RE: Doug Logan Lawsuit - USATF being petty? 12/23/2010 4:43PM - in reply to old face andre
      • truthsayer
      • The board is just trying to get out of paying, and also only canned him to get someone a bit "darker" into the position. While Logan may not be the most professional individual in the business world, he is far more professional than any individual associated with the USATF board.
    • Weary
      • RE: Doug Logan Lawsuit - USATF being petty? 12/23/2010 5:52PM - in reply to truthsayer
      • Weary
      • From what I've heard, often and from a lot of sources, he's hardly the only person in this case who could be asccused of expense abuse.
    • truthsayer
      • RE: Doug Logan Lawsuit - USATF being petty? 12/23/2010 6:16PM - in reply to Weary
      • truthsayer
      • Weary wrote:
        From what I've heard, often and from a lot of sources, he's hardly the only person in this case who could be asccused of expense abuse.
        No, you're exactly right. In fact I would imagine that if everyone's expenses were looked into Logan would be one of the ones with the least amount of abuse. Hightower expense abuse is probably more than triple everyone else put together. The USATF would be a much better organization and will be on its way down a legit path as soon as Hightower is put out. She is every bit as racist as Brooks Johnson, and even far more ignorant. She cares nothing about the organization itself or the athletes and only uses the position for her own benefit.

        Consider the meeting in Hawaii...what good for track and field can be done in Hawaii? Is Hawaii a place known for track and field? No, it was only so the board members could use the meeting as an excuse for a paid vacation for not only themselves but also for their family. No good was done at the meeting in Hawaii, and the nature of Hawaii was obviously going to be a distraction from any work that needed to and should have been done their.

        Axe them all, clean house. Start it over from the ground up. We need former athletes in these positions and it needs to be well documented and public what is expected from each person in each position. These bureaucrats know nothing about what the athletes need or how to make the organization and sport thrive. They only know how to fill their own pockets and take luxurious vacations on the national organizations dollar.

        Logan was the only good thing that the USATF had going. Now its all going to hell.
    • truthsayer
      • RE: Doug Logan Lawsuit - USATF being petty? 12/23/2010 6:22PM - in reply to truthsayer
      • truthsayer
      • [quote]truthsayer wrote:

        Hightower's


        and should have been done THERE.

        [quote]

        Sorry some spelling/grammar issues. I did not want the validity of the post to be tarnished because of grammar issues.
    • The New UncleB
    • polevaultpower
      • RE: Doug Logan Lawsuit - USATF being petty? 12/23/2010 7:05PM - in reply to truthsayer
      • polevaultpower
      • truthsayer wrote:
        Consider the meeting in Hawaii...what good for track and field can be done in Hawaii? Is Hawaii a place known for track and field? No, it was only so the board members could use the meeting as an excuse for a paid vacation for not only themselves but also for their family. No good was done at the meeting in Hawaii, and the nature of Hawaii was obviously going to be a distraction from any work that needed to and should have been done their.
        I think the annual meeting locations are put up for bid just like any other track meet. You can argue the merits of having it in Hawaii, but that happened before Stephanie was on the Board, and I doubt she personally was involved with the site selection process. I'm guessing that falls under Associations, certainly not High Performance or Development.

        I would bet as much good was done as any other annual meeting. I don't know though, I couldn't afford to go that year.
    • My two cents
      • RE: Doug Logan Lawsuit - USATF being petty? 12/23/2010 7:26PM - in reply to old face andre
      • My two cents
      • I'm not an employment lawyer, but the USATF's responses seem pretty flimsy to me, and nothing that would rise to the level of cause.

        I assume the USATF's strategy is to come up with bad stuff to throw back at Logan, make him feel like he has some risk of not recovering the additional salary, and then try to settle the case.

        The whole business makes the USATF look badly run, whatever the outcome. They hired the guy knowing what he was like and what his experience level was and then decided those things were problems. Even if Logan was a bad choice by the board, they need to pay the price for making that bad choice.
    • you are killing the language
      • RE: Doug Logan Lawsuit - USATF being petty? 12/23/2010 7:44PM - in reply to My two cents
      • you are killing the language
      • Please, please, please quit referring to USATF as "the USATF".
    • malmo
      • RE: Doug Logan Lawsuit - USATF being petty? 12/23/2010 8:01PM - in reply to polevaultpower
      • malmo
      • polevaultpower wrote:
        I think the annual meeting locations are put up for bid just like any other track meet. You can argue the merits of having it in Hawaii, but that happened before Stephanie was on the Board, and I doubt she personally was involved with the site selection process. I'm guessing that falls under Associations, certainly not High Performance or Development.
        I don't know much about the convention business, but are you suggesting that someone in Hawaii, after winning a competitive bid, against lets say Las Vegas or Miami, was paying the USATF, a very small athletic federation, to have their Annual Convention there?
    • turkey leg
      • RE: Doug Logan Lawsuit - USATF being petty? 12/23/2010 9:18PM - in reply to
      • turkey leg
      • All I have to say is, I am glad I haven't paid USATF member dues in a long time.
    • Statue of Liberty-head
      • RE: Doug Logan Lawsuit - USATF being petty? 12/23/2010 10:30PM - in reply to
      • Statue of Liberty-head
      • I say we ditch the entire board of directors and put the competent, dignified, and always gramatically correct Ms. Sheila Jackson Lee in charge. The "Queen of Houston" would put the organization on par with the NFL.

        Get those incompetent racists, Hightower and Johnson, out of there and put a real leader in place.
    • Get Real Real
      • RE: Doug Logan Lawsuit - USATF being petty? 12/24/2010 12:09AM - in reply to old face andre
      • Get Real Real
      • Okay it is a holiday...but this is a bid dramatic development in this story...

        And hardly any messages.

        This board is in decline, clearly people have tired of the anonymous low class schtick/ Except for a small handful of stalwart sickies.
    • WAIT
      • RE: Doug Logan Lawsuit - USATF being petty? 12/24/2010 12:48AM - in reply to Yanqui
      • WAIT
      • Wait til after Daegu WCs. Vin has to get his well paid for perk from Nike, opps I mean USATF, as Head Concierge of the USA Daegi squad ;-) Thay effing greasy Italian wop.
    • Impossible Truth
      • RE: Doug Logan Lawsuit - USATF being petty? 12/24/2010 1:02AM - in reply to My two cents
      • Impossible Truth
      • Well put.
        The problem is that no one seems to know how to hold the board accountable.
        No audit , no review , nothing.
        A forensic audit of e-mails taken from hard drives might give a clearer picture of the hidden secrets kept. Looking at expense reports for all under a full lock down audit I assume would be grounds to release all in violation.
        This should extend to expense audits for party budgets , event budgets etc. to review contracts.
    • Top Tax Guy
      • RE: Doug Logan Lawsuit - USATF being petty? 12/24/2010 3:30AM - in reply to old face andre
      • Top Tax Guy
      • It sounds like Logan is claiming Florida as his "Tax Home". If that is so, and he can back it up with the facts, he probably has little or no tax obligation to Indiana because of Tax Credits from filing his tax return in Florida. To make the claim that USATF is making, that Logan didn't file tax returns in Indiana, is careless and potentially may open pandora's box. Assuming Logan has filed his taxes in Florida, he can now have counsel request the source of USATF's claim that he didn't file in Indiana. Believe me someone's head could roll over that.
    • Muff diver etc
      • RE: Doug Logan Lawsuit - USATF being petty? 12/24/2010 3:32AM - in reply to Impossible Truth
      • Muff diver etc
      • he was fired because he was going to get rid of every sh!tface own the board. They fired him to save their own asses (hightower, etc).