Just wondering....
Anyone here have terrible high school times but still go on to run 15:xx for 5k?
I know sub 16 isn't that fast, but I'm just wondering how fast I could possibly get provided I put in the work.
HS Times:
800m: 2:16
1500m: 4:48
Just wondering....
Anyone here have terrible high school times but still go on to run 15:xx for 5k?
I know sub 16 isn't that fast, but I'm just wondering how fast I could possibly get provided I put in the work.
HS Times:
800m: 2:16
1500m: 4:48
My PR is 15:54. In HS, I ran:
800 - 2:03
1600 - 4:50
3200 - 10:46
5K - 17:45
In HS I ran:
Sophomore Year:
1600: 6:21
Junior Year:
1600: 5:08
Senior Year
400: 60.5
800: 2:17 (multiple times)
1600: 4:51
3200: 10:20
5K XC: 17:31
Sophomore year in college, I ran the 5k in 15:32 and 8K XC in 26:35. Junior year, I ran 15:17, 25:25, and 10K in 31:31. Freshman year in college I ran myself and did 25-30 mpw with very few workouts, but I was hammering most of the runs. The next two years I was on the team and running 50-60mpw tops.
It is definitely doable.
1522. in hs
800 around 209-210 i didnt run it that much
1600 439
3200 1018
I'll go here;
High School
880 yd. 2:06
One mile 4:42
2 mile 10:13
Later after college;
1500 m 4:18
3000 m 9:05
5000 m 15:45
10000 m 32:44
10 miles road 54:26 (or :16)
1/2 mar. 1:13 plus (15 miles on road 1:24:01)
20 miles road 1:54:03
Marathon 2:37:47
Another BC guy... my coach tells me you guys laugh at 90 miles and week. Makes sense, since you improved.
Anyway, I finished HS 4 years ago though I didn't exactly improve a ton. More like:
5:21
5:09
4:56
4:48
Ran 20:15 6k off 60-65 miles a week consistently though.
My PR is 15.08 on the track 3 years outta high school. I broke 10 once in the 3200.
High School times:
400m: 51
800m: 2:03
1600m: 4:36
3200m: 9:51
I went on to run 3:48 for 1500m and 14:32 for 5000m in college.
Forget all of these slow high school times comparing to a sub 16...my friend Nathan Hopp could barely break 17 minutes for 5k in college and he has now run 15:43(ish) more than once. He is 26 or 27 I believe, so do the math on time out of school and how development continued.
Dream by daylight, my friend, filling the hours with necessary work to succeed. Nothing is impossible.
15:58
2:02
4:42
11:15
17:30
16:59 high school xc 5k.... 30:20 college 10k
i think i got you guys..
hs
mile: 5:02
2 mile: 11:14
800: 2:16
college
mile: 4:23
3k: 8:52
5k: 15:28
post
mile: 4:14
800: 1:52
3k: 8:45
Here was my high school progression:
Fr: 5:40 mile, ??? 2mile, 19:59 5k xc
So: 5:00 mile, ??? 2mile, 18:40 5k xc
Jr: 4:38 mile, 10:08 2mile, 17:10 5k xc
Sr: 4:28 mile, 9:45 2mile, 16:29 5k xc
in college, I went 15:48 my freshman year. By fall of sophomore year, I was in very good shape and ran 25:35 for 8k xc. I figured I was in about 15:00 or 15:10 shape. Unfortunately, I got hurt that winter and have had injury problems on and off since then. I still managed to run 15:25 indoors last winter.
You can certainly do it. I don't have a lot of time, but here are a few comments:
1) gaining the 5k fitness when you aren't talented is all about high mileage and high-quality aerobic work. 5k-specific workouts are important for getting into race-ready form, but your major improvements will come during the summer and winter, when you run high mileage and do long tempo runs, progression runs, and the like. Read some of John Kellogg's stuff here on letsrun--it's tucked away pretty good, but it is really great stuff
2) your basic speed is pretty awful. Unless you are actually slow as hell, I bet your running/sprinting form and mechanics could use a lot of work. Usually that's what prevents people from running fast, not necessarily muscular limitations. You ought to do strides every single day, and read up on "good" form. Steve Magness' blog has some good articles. If you don't fix your form, you are going to have mechanical barriers (in addition to metabolic ones) to running fast in the 5k (16:00 is 5:08 pace after all).
I ran 2:08, 4:53y, 10:31, and 17:10 in high school and 4:15y, 8:27 for 3k and 15:10 in college (although that 5k was piss poor, I think I could've run 14:50 in the right race, which I never found). As well as going from an 11:10 steepler to a 9:15 steepler.
How bad was your high school training?
HaHa.. ok wrote:
i think i got you guys..
hs
mile: 5:02
2 mile: 11:14
800: 2:16
college
mile: 4:23
3k: 8:52
5k: 15:28
post
mile: 4:14
800: 1:52
3k: 8:45
very bad.. i ran maybe 15 miles a week tops and i kept growing up until soph yr of college so very under-developed til i was about 21.
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How bad was your high school training?
HaHa.. ok wrote:i think i got you guys..
hs
mile: 5:02
2 mile: 11:14
800: 2:16
college
mile: 4:23
3k: 8:52
5k: 15:28
post
mile: 4:14
800: 1:52
3k: 8:45
While I don't quite qualify for the category, I figured I was close enough and that my times were relevant to the topic..
High school:
400 - 54.6
800 - 2:08
1600 - 5:01
3200 - 11:32
3 mile XC - 18:35
5k XC - 18:33
College - Mid-level D2 program (one more season to go):
400: 50.5
800: 1:56
1500: 4:08 (ran once)
5k: 16:28 (ran once)
8k: 27:15
I'm planning on running a mile, more 1500s, a 3k, and a 5k in the upcoming track seasons and my goals, which I think are attainable, are:
1500 - 3:59
Mile - 4:18
3000 - 9:05
5k - 15:55
I was also a late bloomer, not really hitting my growth spurt until junior year of HS and really finally hitting my complete growth until freshman year of college.
Also, in HS, I was more into it for the social aspect, but saw immediate improvement in college when I really jumped into it. I focused on the 800 my freshman track season and took my PR from 2:08.9 to 1:58.54 in less than a year.
I ran 14:59 and never got anywhere close to 5:00 in HS. Fastest was a 5:17 my dad recorded me summer before senior year..granted that was the only time I ran a timed anything since 10th grade PE class until I picked up running as a sophomore in college.
HS:
Frosh
Mile - 4:55
2 Mile - 10:49
5k - 17:03
Soph
Mile - 4:42
2 Mile - 10:04
5k - 16:59
Junior
Mile - 4:26
2 Mile - 9:41
5k - 16:01
Senior
Mile - 4:20
2 Mile - 9:20
5k - 15:10
College
Mile - 4:12 (indoors)
3k - 8:38
5k - 15:06
NOW:
10k - 29:34
Half-Marathon - 1:05:42
HS
junior year: 18:25
Senior Year: 17:01
College:
1500:3:57
3000:8:35
5k: 15:07
8k: 25:05