I'm a HS senior 400 meter runner. I've run 47.87 automatic timed for 400m. Since I'm white I feel my best chance to get to a D1 school is run the 800. My best time last year in the 800 was only 1:59. But that was in a dual meet where I won by a large margin. How can I get better at the 800.
Ask your coach and tell us what he think!! Have a nice day old man.
I'm 17. Is that too old?
Is this Calvin Clark? Just wondering, since he was the only junior to run that time last year.
What you should do is this - don't ask us. Talk to college coaches and say, "Eventually I see myself moving up to the 800 meters since a 47 second 400 is only going to take me so far at the college level. What do you recommend I focus on senior year? Trying to run a good 800 time or working on getting my 400 even lower before I move up?"
Because honestly I don't know what is more valuable to coach - you graduating with your 400 pr still at 47.78 and a 800 of 1:52-1:55; OR maybe you get your 400 time to 47.2 or even 46.9 but your 800 is still stuck at 1:59. Both ways show a lot of potential, and the fact that you are willing to move up is great.
not a college coach wrote:
Is this Calvin Clark? Just wondering, since he was the only junior to run that time last year.
What you should do is this - don't ask us. Talk to college coaches and say, "Eventually I see myself moving up to the 800 meters since a 47 second 400 is only going to take me so far at the college level. What do you recommend I focus on senior year? Trying to run a good 800 time or working on getting my 400 even lower before I move up?"
Because honestly I don't know what is more valuable to coach - you graduating with your 400 pr still at 47.78 and a 800 of 1:52-1:55; OR maybe you get your 400 time to 47.2 or even 46.9 but your 800 is still stuck at 1:59. Both ways show a lot of potential, and the fact that you are willing to move up is great.
I'm not that guy. My 47.78 was against D1 college men at college meet in Ohio. My time did not get listed in the national rankings because of that. I havent been able to break 48.8 in any other meet which is why I think my future is in the 800.
I think your girlfriend might be "MovingUpTo8" as well.
aholian wrote:
I think your girlfriend might be "MovingUpTo8" as well.
She does not run track. She is a vollyball player. But I'm sure she could run a 800 in under 2:35.
How do you think you might get better in the 800?
Also tell us how you got that good in the 400.
Also tell us your 100 and 200 and 1500 and 10k PB's.
Also tell us your height and weight.
Also, honestly compare yourself to guys you know that you consider to "have guts"...and tell us if you are like them?
Then we'll let you know.
Coach Owl Birdo wrote:
How do you think you might get better in the 800?
Also tell us how you got that good in the 400.
Also tell us your 100 and 200 and 1500 and 10k PB's.
Also tell us your height and weight.
Also, honestly compare yourself to guys you know that you consider to "have guts"...and tell us if you are like them?
Then we'll let you know.
I think I should lose 15-20 pounds. I am not fat but too muscular.
100: 10.9
200: 22.8
1600: 5:15 ( Gym Class)
10K : never ran
6' 1'' 185
I have some guts. I ran a 5:15 mile in Gym Class in basketball shoes.
MovingUpTo8 wrote:
I think I should lose 15-20 pounds. I am not fat but too muscular.
100: 10.9
200: 22.8
1600: 5:15 ( Gym Class)
10K : never ran
6' 1'' 185
I have some guts. I ran a 5:15 mile in Gym Class in basketball shoes.[/quote]
Those times indicate that it's your speed that's producing the decent 400 meter time. I think you could do well at the 800, but the training needed to well at 800, means your sprint times will suffer. Your training will be "Short to Long" model. Good Luck.
Coach Owl Birdo wrote:
Those times indicate that it's your speed that's producing the decent 400 meter time. I think you could do well at the 800, but the training needed to well at 800, means your sprint times will suffer. Your training will be "Short to Long" model. Good Luck.
Thanks. I just ran an 800 practice run on the track at my school. I got 2 friends to take turns pacing me. Good news is that I ran about 1:56. I've only been running about 12 miles a week since June so this is pretty good for me.
MovingUpTo8 wrote:
Coach Owl Birdo wrote:Those times indicate that it's your speed that's producing the decent 400 meter time. I think you could do well at the 800, but the training needed to well at 800, means your sprint times will suffer. Your training will be "Short to Long" model. Good Luck.
Thanks. I just ran an 800 practice run on the track at my school. I got 2 friends to take turns pacing me. Good news is that I ran about 1:56. I've only been running about 12 miles a week since June so this is pretty good for me.
This is somewhere around what a 400 guy should expect to run for 800 from your 400 time. When Juantorena scaled up from 400 to 800 he added special endurance sessions like 5X600 at around 800 pace (the plan is on the web).
For a sprinter running 800 as a sprinter, you get your endurance from long special endurance runs (that's fast endurance at near race speed). A distance runner gets the endurance from mileage. An 800 specialist will do more long aerobic intervals like 1000s and 12-8-6-4 breakdowns.
It's hard to imagine that your 47.87 FAT does not have D1 schools interested in you. Perhaps not a full ride but that kind of time as a Junior should put you on the radar for money.
As far as moving up, 12 miles a week isn't going to do it for you. At this point (and you are late to the party) you should be getting an endurance base under your belt and as you get into the meat of your seasons FAST 600's in practice are the way to fast 800's in meets.
You made up your 400m time just do the same with the 8
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