It really all depends on what you call a Bench. Anyone I’ve seen Bench 300+ or the equivalent like 225 x 10 is in no way conditioned to run a marathon.
Not say y’all are lying....but y’all might be a little liberal with what you call a Bench.
Alan
It really all depends on what you call a Bench. Anyone I’ve seen Bench 300+ or the equivalent like 225 x 10 is in no way conditioned to run a marathon.
Not say y’all are lying....but y’all might be a little liberal with what you call a Bench.
Alan
the truth hurtzzzz wrote:
Benching is overrated...
Benching is a method of over-compensating for the under-endowed crowd.
Proven fact.
Yugely dude, Really. wrote:
the truth hurtzzzz wrote:
Benching is overrated...
Benching is a method of over-compensating for the under-endowed crowd.
Proven fact.
.....Supported by chatty women from the club, daily.
I am more impressed when you can bench AND run certain weight/times in the same period. Joseph Norton has the fastest known pump and run record at the Arnold Classic, where he benched his body weight (155lbs) x 30 then 1.5 hours later ran a 15:27 on a legit course.
Myself, I have done a 16:04 at the Arnold Classic. My highest bench max is 265lbs and body weight was 142lbs and at that time and I was in 16:20s 5k shape. I also did 5x5 at 225 a couple of times so I think my bench max could be higher if I actually trained with someone.
I believe several of these OCR guys could do very well at this type of thing if they actually trained for it.
Runningart2004 wrote:
It really all depends on what you call a Bench. Anyone I’ve seen Bench 300+ or the equivalent like 225 x 10 is in no way conditioned to run a marathon.
Not say y’all are lying....but y’all might be a little liberal with what you call a Bench.
Alan
I'd agree with ya in most cases for sure. In the day of social media, I have to say I am kinda impressed with Patrick Cutter. He's a 230s marathoner and claims to have repped 225 10+ times which I'd believe based on his build and just being experienced in the weight room myself. In most cases though, the runner is more of an outlier when it comes to sub 3 hours and putting up 225 for reps.
I recently made friends with Nick Wages. He passed me at the Hospital Hill Half Marathon in the summer of 2022 and I thought I was delirious due to the size of his upper body. After the race, the first thing I asked him was if he'd broken 3 hours in the marathon because he had obviously benched 300+ at some time in his life. He hadn't run sub 3 at the time, but has since done so twice - once in St. Louis and again at Boston this past April. BTW, his max bench... 405! That's legit
I maxed out at 305 when I was 27 years old / did not start running till I was 30 but did run a 2:57 marathon at age 35. I stopped maxing out on the bench when I started running more and kept it at 225 doing 6-8 reps etc.
what would be more impressive? 300 bench + sub 3 hour marathon OR 400 bench + sub 4 hour marathon?
Only impressive if you can do them same day. Runners who stop running and then lift a lot of weight are not impressive. Guys who worked out with a lot of weights then years later lose weight and race fast 10K to Marathon are not impressive.
If anyone in the future swims 200m sub-1:43 and runs 800m sub-1:43, I won't care how much time between performances, but running fast then five years later lifting a lot, no big deal.