woo woo wee do wrote:
true challenge wrote:B t dubs... you don't "weigh" 300 pounds, you ARE 300 pounds. One of those things that defines you as a human being.
maybe i'm missing the sarcasm, but for what it's worth, you do not know the difference between 'weight' and 'mass'
pounds can be weight or mass (lb or lbm),
but way to try to appear smarter than someone on the internet
runningart2004,
I have actually avoided squats for a long time, much to the dislike of many of my lifting buddies, for feelings that you're right. I think that I would put on way to much mass doing heavy squats to be able to run at all.
Thanks for the kind words, I am pretty proud.
I wonder if I could get back down to sub three anytime soon?
cgrunner2007 wrote:
I could bench 245 at the time I ran 2:46. I've been working on increasing my bench for a while and got to 280 but then injured my shoulder.
I kept injuring my shoulders when I was working to increase my bench. I started doing a lot of push ups, doing shoulder exercises with light weights, and doing the bulk of my bench work with heavy dumbbells instead of the bar. That helped a lot.
355 lb bench and 6 minute mile same week last fall, at 220 lbs and heavy smoker.
Training:
lifting 1-2 times a week
running 1-2 miles a week
315 x 3, 5k 23 min same week
my body wt 175, 5' 9"
Didn't max out much but I did 225x10 back when I ran a mile in 4:13, 3k in 8:25, 8k in 25:15. I was a mid-distance guy though so it was obviously easier to keep on some solid upperbody strength. My weight was 160.
Very good topic.
I played football in college, and senior year, maxed out in the bench at 325.
Since then I've gotten into marathons, and currently have a PR of 2:34. (hope to be lower in 6 days...)
Certainly I couldn't do those at the same time.
I should have a timed mile and 2 mile here in the next few weeks. I'm thinking I could still break 5:00 and 11:00
Look at this guy:
265lb bench at 158lb
415lb squat at 158lb
3:44 marathon
And he runs quite a bit for a lifter. I've talked to him and his stats are now a little outdated. He's limited his running and his squat has gone up quite a bit.
Alan
dsfa wrote:
355 lb bench and 6 minute mile same week last fall, at 220 lbs and heavy smoker.
Training:
lifting 1-2 times a week
running 1-2 miles a week
Would you walk a mile for a Camel ?
Benching is overrated...
My marathon PR is 2:48 and current bench is 355. However, I set that PR 6 years ago, and it's highly doubtful I could sniff a 3 hour marathon in my present shape. When I did the 2:48 my bench was putting up 280 for a single (@ 148lbs).
Pretty sure Kevin Krause did it. Ran the marathon in the mid 2:20s at Boston one year and was NYS Feds XC Champ and top 15 at Kinney Nationals back in 1988. Very strong and short guy, pretty sure I read somewhere that he could put up 300+ for the bench press.
the truth hurtzzzz wrote:
Benching is overrated...
....and usually not done correctly..;)
I know lots of people who can bench 225 or 315 or whatever....then I see them do it and it's sad as the bar comes down to about 2-3in above the chest before going back up. Really? Or they throw their hips in the air trying to propel the bar up.
Saw a guy yesterday being trained by one of our trainers benching 275....the bar never got down further than 3-4in above the chest and it looked ugly.
Alan
Does anyone know of anyone who weighs 300 pounds and runs a sub 3 hour marathon?
I weighed 165 lbs at 5'10", benched 245 lbs, and ran a 2:23 marathon within the same month last year.
I don't really try to "bench train" though. I usually do 5 x 135 lbs on the bench with 60 seconds rest. High bench stats are a JV lifting pursuit. I see guys at the gym and that's all they do. Having a high bench press means nothing in terms of actual athletic fitness.
sdfasdfasd wrote:
I weighed 165 lbs at 5'10", benched 245 lbs, and ran a 2:23 marathon within the same month last year.
I don't really try to "bench train" though. I usually do 5 x 135 lbs on the bench with 60 seconds rest. High bench stats are a JV lifting pursuit. I see guys at the gym and that's all they do. Having a high bench press means nothing in terms of actual athletic fitness.
...except that you have a high upper body strength....
Attributes of Fitness:
Muscular Strength
Muscular Endurance
Cardiorespiratory Endurance
Flexibility
Body Composition
Alan
How about balancing all that benching w/ rows or chinups. You'll get gorilla shoulders.
Most do, but this thread isn't about rows or chinups. It's also harder to test pulling strength as you can put a lot of low back into any pulling movement.
Chest supported T-Bar Row is about the best way I can think of to test pulling stretch.
Alan
Hello 300 sub 3:00
WE actually have a club here in Chicago of powerlifters that also compete in endurance events. From 1996 thru 2002 we held a mock competition that 8 week prior to the Chicago marathon, we held a bench press competition for open lifters as well as those going for the sub 3 marathon. The open lifters were allowed to wear single ply bench shirts and were required to pause their lifts. The endurance lifters were not allowed to wear any equipment (besides wraps and a belt) but only had to do a touch and go bench. You got 3 attempts. I successfully made the club all 7 years, and we had 3 other members that achieved 3 years or more. I think its a great test of strength and endurance and like you mentioned, i believe that only a handful of athletes in the world can achieve the 300 sub 3:00.
All the best--Thomas Estka