What Salazar said about Webb... .?

well he sure has him leaned out more like a 800-1500m runner. did you see his legs on camera sunday? they looked good and lean but toothpick like compared to what those thigh cannons looked like 2007-2009.

The part that is most shocking is the statement of "more speed training..." Was that not the issue before with Webb, too much high-end speed, not enough strength endurance (volume and tempo type) ?

Seems Alberto is sending the inquiring public on a false trail.

false trail wrote:

The part that is most shocking is the statement of "more speed training..." Was that not the issue before with Webb, too much high-end speed, not enough strength endurance (volume and tempo type) ?

Seems Alberto is sending the inquiring public on a false trail.

He ran 27:34...where is he lacking endurance for the mile? Did you forget how good that is? For his first 10k ever?

coach bigfoot wrote:

false trail wrote:

The part that is most shocking is the statement of "more speed training..." Was that not the issue before with Webb, too much high-end speed, not enough strength endurance (volume and tempo type) ?

Seems Alberto is sending the inquiring public on a false trail.

He ran 27:34...where is he lacking endurance for the mile? Did you forget how good that is? For his first 10k ever?

chris ran 26:59 FOR HIS FIRST 10K EVER. sorry but 27:34 isn't that good mate.

yochris wrote:

coach bigfoot wrote:

He ran 27:34...where is he lacking endurance for the mile? Did you forget how good that is? For his first 10k ever?

chris ran 26:59 FOR HIS FIRST 10K EVER. sorry but 27:34 isn't that good mate.

And Chris wasn't a miler either.

Duh.

Chris Lukezic, a world-class miler who sometimes trains with Webb, recalls a June workout on the track at George Mason. "It was me and Alan and [Canadian Olympian] Kevin Sullivan. We were doing 800s. We started out pretty easy, like a two-minute pace, and it went down pretty impressively from there. I dropped out after seven. Kevin dropped out after eight. Alan did nine. The last couple, man, fast ." At the end Webb had dipped into the low 1:50s.

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Stuff like this point to a few things... I will say a tad intense even for a talent like Webb & maybe pharma-enhanced. This workout was just before the 3;30/3;46 in July 07. Never was Webb the same afterwards, never.

What I find strange with this is that he doesn't seem to do well when he has had to run qualifying heats of the mile in the same competition. You would think endurance would have been his shortcoming.

this was the most surprising part of the article:

Salazar will also have Webb run more and different races than he had in the past to reduce the pressure when he does compete and to help him enjoy the sport more.

“He’ll run the 400 and 500 indoors and even some 800s,” he said. “It does not have to be every time Alan Webb goes on the track, he sets a record. It’s O.K. to lose. You manage stress that way.”

He's going to run some 400s indoors??

yochris wrote:

chris ran 26:59 FOR HIS FIRST 10K EVER. sorry but 27:34 isn't that good mate.

Yea, because how many American Milers have ever run 26:59? 0? How many Americans before this year had ever run under 27:13? 0? You are an idiot, mate.

Get Real Real wrote:

yochris wrote:

chris ran 26:59 FOR HIS FIRST 10K EVER. sorry but 27:34 isn't that good mate.

And Chris wasn't a miler either.

Duh.

He sure as hell wasn't a 10ker either. Before, he raced mostly 1500 and 3000 with the occasional 5k. Therefore, shut the f*** up.

retardalert. wrote:

yochris wrote:

chris ran 26:59 FOR HIS FIRST 10K EVER. sorry but 27:34 isn't that good mate.

Yea, because how many American Milers have ever run 26:59? 0? How many Americans before this year had ever run under 27:13? 0? You are an idiot, mate.

look above imbecile.

yochris wrote:

coach bigfoot wrote:

He ran 27:34...where is he lacking endurance for the mile? Did you forget how good that is? For his first 10k ever?

chris ran 26:59 FOR HIS FIRST 10K EVER. sorry but 27:34 isn't that good mate.

If by "that good" you are comparing to 26:59 you are right, but if you mean that good as in not good, you are an idiot!!!

Yeah, I'm surprised the OP didn't say anything about this and that everyone else overlooked this. It seems like having him run all-out 400's and 500's indoors could put a lot of stress on the achiles tendon, but I'm not a specialist in that field, so I may not know what I'm talking about. I wonder what Salazar would think a reasonable goal would be for Webb at 400m and 500m? 48/49 & 61/62? I've never heard of a miler running just 400's or 500's indoors. I've heard of 800m runners like Juantorena and some others doing a couple open 400's here and there, but not someone who is more of a 1500m/mile specialist.

jjjjjjjjjj wrote:

this was the most surprising part of the article:

Salazar will also have Webb run more and different races than he had in the past to reduce the pressure when he does compete and to help him enjoy the sport more.

“He’ll run the 400 and 500 indoors and even some 800s,” he said. “It does not have to be every time Alan Webb goes on the track, he sets a record. It’s O.K. to lose. You manage stress that way.”

He's going to run some 400s indoors??

Maybe Salazar is just looking to put Webb in a lot of races just to gain experience. One of the knocks against Webb has been that he lacks tactical sense. He doesn't have to be peaked up for the indoor season, he can double up events, and he's running race distances where he's often not going to be the favorite.

You have to take into consideration that Salazar has all of Webb's old workouts..he might have had endurance and speed but not the right combination to get him through qualifying rounds and tactical races..

27'34 is great for a miler/800m..Solinsky never ran 1'43, 3'30, or 3'46..he has run sub-13' several times..meaning he was a 5k-10k guy not a miler..you are not a miler if you run the mile for speed

trythisone wrote:

yochris wrote:

chris ran 26:59 FOR HIS FIRST 10K EVER. sorry but 27:34 isn't that good mate.

If by "that good" you are comparing to 26:59 you are right, but if you mean that good as in not good, you are an idiot!!!

Go back to 3rd grade English

class, then post back.

numiler hit the nail on the head!

numiler22 wrote:

You have to take into consideration that Salazar has all of Webb's old workouts..he might have had endurance and speed but not the right combination to get him through qualifying rounds and tactical races..

27'34 is great for a miler/800m..Solinsky never ran 1'43, 3'30, or 3'46..he has run sub-13' several times..meaning he was a 5k-10k guy not a miler..you are not a miler if you run the mile for speed

When Solinsky ran below 27, he hadn't ran any sub 13's. He raced more miles/3ks than 5ks, and obviously 10ks.

yochris wrote:

numiler22 wrote:

You have to take into consideration that Salazar has all of Webb's old workouts..he might have had endurance and speed but not the right combination to get him through qualifying rounds and tactical races..

27'34 is great for a miler/800m..Solinsky never ran 1'43, 3'30, or 3'46..he has run sub-13' several times..meaning he was a 5k-10k guy not a miler..you are not a miler if you run the mile for speed

When Solinsky ran below 27, he hadn't ran any sub 13's. He raced more miles/3ks than 5ks, and obviously 10ks.

That was his debut 10k..he ran 5ks last year and wasn't fast enough..and yes he did run 1500-3k's before but nothing great..i believe 3'35-'36 and 7'40's or so..but of course his times r much better at 5-10k..he is not a miler