Landis on Armstrong: 'At some point, people have to tell their kids that Santa Claus isn't real.'

I know, our 4 year old was in the room and we've had to explain a lot....

Moes Tavern wrote:

I know, our 4 year old was in the room and we\'ve had to explain a lot....

Haha that\'s exactly what I was thinking when I saw the interview. How many young kids watched it and found out Santa wasn\'t real. The Landis haters will really hate him now. Also to answer ops question... I don\'t live with my head in the sand.

Here's something weird: I went to Cycling News, which I think is one of the biggest sources on pro cycling, and there is NOT ONE WORD about Lance on the front page.

Why are cycling fans and media covering for Lance?

Next you'll tell me that Obama isn't The New Jesus after all.

dirty cyclists wrote:

Here's something weird: I went to Cycling News, which I think is one of the biggest sources on pro cycling, and there is NOT ONE WORD about Lance on the front page.

Why are cycling fans and media covering for Lance?

First of all, the 2nd leader on Cycling News is about LeMond responding to Landis' allegations, so they are commenting on the story.

Second, this story is sooo played out in the cycling community. Everyone's tired of it and just wants to focus on the racing.

Third, most people in the cycling community believe that Lance doped, but don't really care because it's widely known that everyone dopes. Lance certainly doesn't have a lot of fans in the racing community, but that's more because he has a reputation for being sort of an asshole...not because people view him as a 'cheater'.

dirty cyclists wrote:

Here's something weird: I went to Cycling News, which I think is one of the biggest sources on pro cycling, and there is NOT ONE WORD about Lance on the front page.

Why are cycling fans and media covering for Lance?

Go to the cycling news forums. The people in there are incredibly anti Lance. Far more anti Lance than the people here. Also, I just went on the homepage and there were two stories. The one about Landis going on t.v. and the one about Greg Lemond. What more would you expect? There is no more news on Lance to report. There are other cyclists you know.

Here's something weird: I went to Cycling News, which I think is one of the biggest sources on pro cycling, and there is NOT ONE WORD about Lance on the front page.Why are cycling fans and media covering for Lance?[/quote]

kohlberg wrote:

[quote]dirty cyclists wrote:

First of all, the 2nd leader on Cycling News is about LeMond responding to Landis' allegations, so they are commenting on the story.

Second, this story is sooo played out in the cycling community. Everyone's tired of it and just wants to focus on the racing.

Third, most people in the cycling community believe that Lance doped, but don't really care because it's widely known that everyone dopes.

OK, so a story was added (at 08:24 this morning) -- there were zero when I wrote that last night, and one mention out of hundreds of stories is pretty week.

"Played out"? "Everyone wants to focus on the racing"? Do you understand that you are making my point for me? I find it disgusting that riders, fans and the expert cycling media are content to see the tour raced and written up as 'business as usual' when there is a drug cheat of this stature in the race. If it's "played out" to you, that's pathetic on your part as fans and a sad comment on your attention span as a group.

If, for example, Bekele or Geb were in the same position, I think that running fans might have a bit more to say about it. Or Conador been flying a "drug cheats out" sign (a la Radcliffe) that I didn't see?

Besides Landis' wild story, is there any proof that any of his accusations are true? Did Lance ever fail a drug test? Was he ever caught with syringes? Did he ever get caught with any medical equipment that was used for doping? I think that he probably did use drugs, but until I see actual proof, I"m going to give him the benefit of the doubt. Landis has shown himself to be liar. Why should anyone believe him?

Michael Faraday wrote:

Besides Landis' wild story, is there any proof that any of his accusations are true? Did Lance ever fail a drug test?

Yes, and of course he had a prescription for it, as did several other cheaters. Just like in track when we had a breakout in narcolepsy.

Let me see if got this right.....In the tour de france officals give the racers a standard drug test which Landis fails and Armstrong passes!......yet Landis claims they are using the same methods?

.......until Lance fails a actual drug test like Landis I will continue to believe Lance.

someone should follow Landis and when he drunk in a bar go up beat the sh*t of him!....especial for takening all that Fund Raising Money!

Lots of people believe that Armstrong doped. Lots of people don't. Lots of people are unsure.

No one should change their mind based on anything Floyd Landis says.

I use prescription medicine for my blood pressure (Norvasc) and allergies (claritin). Lance was prescribed medicine for cancer treatment (EPO). Are you suggesting that he shouldn't have taken his cancer medicine?

Landis is a sad, bitter man who just wanted to be in the spotlight again, and should not be given any credibility whatsoever. That said, I don't know about Lance. Never tested positive and honestly, after going through cancer and having your body pushed literally to the edge of death, I can't imagine he would put something in his body that could quite literally kill him.

The nation of Cycling is against Lance Armstrong, their hero LeMond, couldn't beat this man who fought cancer and then steadily started putting it on the field.

I don't think Lance Doped, I think he doped his team and only his team and rode on their wheels to victory after victory. He was a great 1 day rider before he got cancer and became a decent multi-stage rider with an incredible doped to the "gills" team.

'At some point, people have to tell their kids that Santa Claus isn't real.'

Is that when those people that donated their hard earned money to you to prove your 'innocence' get their money back Floyd?

Disclaimer: I believe Landis, but its almost like these accusations have to come from someone else to hold true weight. I personally can't put past me the fact that he denied doping for 4 years to now try to be the sports savior.

I believe that Lance doped but personally I think it was during a time when everyone has. The fact that Landis is the one pushing this makes me not care. Personally it is like baseball and the guys that played about 10 years ago. They were on stuff but most were so it kinda levels the playing field. It's a black eye on the sport but on the individuals I don't think so.

Michael Faraday wrote:

I use prescription medicine for my blood pressure (Norvasc) and allergies (claritin). Lance was prescribed medicine for cancer treatment (EPO). Are you suggesting that he shouldn't have taken his cancer medicine?

I didn't take it. Why should he?

Oh yeah, because he's a cyclist and an asshole.

So naive! Go to cycling news forums, the clinic, and educate yourselves.

If he has passed 300 drug test without one failed test that is a compelling arguement. I know the drugs are always ahead of the test, but still to be that good.

Did Lance cheat, more than likely, it isn't right, but in cycling it was pretty much the norm.

I really think Lemond and Landis are just jealous, not of Lance's riding ability, but of his marketing ability. He won, and made a ton of money, something I don't think either one of them did.

I would wonder if something comes out, is there a way Armstrong could lose money that he has made in the past?