Wheating in the Big Boys mile at Pre

Huge risk for Wheating. I wonder how sharp he is after the fairly exhausting 800/1500 double at NCAA's. He looked pretty blown out after that last 1500 meter race.

Haha, I doubt he'll win or get his butt kicked. At least for me getting his butt kicked in this race would be coming in a distant last.

Someone will come in last, and they will still be a very fast runner capable of winning a lot of races around the world.

I think this is the moment of truth for Wheating, the first time he's really going to be stretched out for the length of a race since the Olympic trials where he still came up with a big kick.

You know Wheating, if he gets momentum going at Hayward Field the norm is thrown out.

He has 3 american targets to go for.

right you are wrote:

Huge risk for Wheating. I wonder how sharp he is after the fairly exhausting 800/1500 double at NCAA's. He looked pretty blown out after that last 1500 meter race.

What is the risk exactly?

right you are wrote:

Huge risk for Wheating. I wonder how sharp he is after the fairly exhausting 800/1500 double at NCAA's. He looked pretty blown out after that last 1500 meter race.

I'm sure he hit an emotional and physical low after NCAA's, but hopefully he watched USAs this weekend and is rebounding. I'm sure the adrenaline and nerves will get him up for this race in front of a packed stadium in Eugene. He's in with the very best in the world and with only one race to worry about for the first time in a while.

The irony here is the only pressure he has is not about finishing first, but about not being last! One or two guys will blow out from the pace so last place is not likely for his running style. The half mile split should actually be kinder on him than most of the field, and he'll have the slowest split.

2 weeks rest is enough and some say that you should do a big double or triple (slower than pr pace) about 14 days out from your big race. remember how webb ran that 1:47/49/4:06 (2:14/1:52) or something like that two weeks before his 3:53. Okay, I wouldn't advise making a habit of that, but he'll be strong.

I agree. Wheating is smart, and he has a smart coach. Yes, he is very inexperienced running a race with this level of competition, but it will be a start, and he will learn from it. Will he win? NO. Will he finish last? No. He will probably finish back in about 8th or 9th place, but will still run a lifetime best at around 3:52 or 3:53. Mark my words.

okay, maybe.

Always Positive wrote:

I agree. Wheating is smart, and he has a smart coach. Yes, he is very inexperienced running a race with this level of competition, but it will be a start, and he will learn from it. Will he win? NO. Will he finish last? No. He will probably finish back in about 8th or 9th place, but will still run a lifetime best at around 3:52 or 3:53. Mark my words.

This is a logical assessment, but it is difficult to imagine Wheating finishing 8th or 9th isn't it?

Here's the thing, this is like racing in a world or olympic final in terms of talent. This is a great opportunity.

This is exactly what Wheating needs to make the jump he is due for.

Perspectivation wrote:

Here's the thing, this is like racing in a world or olympic final in terms of talent. This is a great opportunity.

Actually this race should be faster than most world or olympic finals. How big of an engine does Wheating have? But if he is around the leaders with 100 meters to go...

Wheating is going to get his *ss handed to him. Expect a He will lose by at least 8 seconds to the winner.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

Wheating will get beat so bad!

I can see him losing by 80 meters!

right you are wrote:

Perspectivation wrote:

Here's the thing, this is like racing in a world or olympic final in terms of talent. This is a great opportunity.

Actually this race should be faster than most world or olympic finals.

True, I simply meant in terms of talent and hitters. This is Wheatings chance to be Robby Andrews (or Wheating in 2008) all over again but at the next level. Not that he'll go and beat the field, but he's the one with nothing to lose and everything to gain in this race. Every guy he can pick off should be a little spike of adrenaline. And if the train gets rolling, well you know what Hayward Field does for runners.

He better eat his Wheaties!

Yes, all you glass is half empty people think that way. Thankfully, Mr. Andrew Wheating is a glass half full guy (that's how he has gotten to the point he is today), and thankfully he has a positive coach who understands the difference between opportunity and fear. It will be an epic race, no doubt, assuming the wind cooperates.

Remember when a guy who had a mile/1500 pb MUCH slower than andy wheating ran this race back in 2005?

He only ran 3:53 and almost ran down lagat...and was only some 3+ seconds from the win...his name was...alan webb

Wheating has run 1:45 and 3:37...why the hell can't he run 3:50?

he'll get smoked but run 3:54. Good enough for me.

Is he done after this race or does he run over the summer? I think this should be it for him and he should take some good time off and then start getting a monstrous base getting ready for the next year.

cv4 wrote:

he'll get smoked but run 3:54. Good enough for me.

I'm sure Andy himself wouldn't be too thrilled with 3:54. Winding out regionals with a 3:37 healthy win, untested is surely better than 3:54 at the PRE classic mile.

I mean 3:37 is the rough equivalent of a 3:54-3:55 mile and then you have to factor the circumstances.

1) Running 4 races in 3 days, easily kicking away for a simple victory in 3:37 while trying to conserve energy for NCAA's.

2) Coming infor 1 race which is going to be a rabbited affair with nothing to do or think about but hanging on and kicking past as many people as you can the last 200 in front of 12,000 screaming fans.

Wheating may run 3:54, but that won't be a great race for him.

Letsrun junkie wrote:

Is he done after this race or does he run over the summer? I think this should be it for him and he should take some good time off and then start getting a monstrous base getting ready for the next year.

Centro's interview at USAs said he may think about a race in Europe or two, so surely Wheating is aiming for that. He has no cross season to worry about and started his season later than Centro and others.

There was a lot of pressure on Wheating as well as physical demand the last few weeks of the season but the monkey off the back can be rejuvinating.