where can i find the results?
where can i find the results?
Carted Off wrote:
Did I not predict this? Epic showdown as Donnelly adds the one thing that was missing to his resume, separating he and Carius even farther from the rest of the coaches in all of division three.
Hulleberg just won a national championship having never made all-american before in his life. Has that happened before? Obviously it's been done on the track, but xc is even harder to win because everyone's in it. Maybe a freshman who won it? But winning after never making AA before? Sarah Palin can see Anders Hulleberg's balls from her house.
Oh, and Hulleberg technically has another year of eligibility, though at Haverford it's hard to find a way to be a fifth-yearer.
As far as I know it's been done once before. In 1998, NCC's Eric Dieckman was the national champion, despite having never been AA and never winning a collegiate cross country race (he was always beaten by his teammate Collin Young, who was 15th that year). He made a big move at 3 miles and no one covered it because they assumed he'd just fall back to the pack, but never did.
The feed was kinda crappy, but unless I'm missing something it seemed like no one made a serious bid to pull away in the men's race. That's got to be pretty rare that any of 10 guys were within 5 seconds and striking distance with 800 to go. I'm pretty shocked that Hulleberg won. I was running in that conference last year, and he was only the third best distance runner at last year's conference meet. XC is a different beast, but wow he must have had a heck of a summer.
is there an issue or something with the results? why is it taking so long to get them posted?
viewfromlane9.blogspot.com wrote:
The feed was kinda crappy, but unless I'm missing something it seemed like no one made a serious bid to pull away in the men's race. That's got to be pretty rare that any of 10 guys were within 5 seconds and striking distance with 800 to go. I'm pretty shocked that Hulleberg won. I was running in that conference last year, and he was only the third best distance runner at last year's conference meet. XC is a different beast, but wow he must have had a heck of a summer.
Except that he was the top centennial guy at the regional meet that year, and made the conference look like clowns in the indoor 5k. There was just a ton of parity in the centennial last year until Karwoski turned into an absolute beast sometime in March.
And to the SLU dude, in what universe did SLU run as well as your hypothetical? Hypothetically, Haverford's fastest runner was their sixth man today, and they could have had another in the top five. Hypothetically, a meteor could have killed everyone between 10th and 25th place with 100m to go. There are no hypotheticals, that's why we race. There's no could-have-been, there's only what was. And what was was that Haverford ran a really strong race and smacked the field.
Catloaf wrote:As far as I know it's been done once before. In 1998, NCC's Eric Dieckman was the national champion, despite having never been AA and never winning a collegiate cross country race (he was always beaten by his teammate Collin Young, who was 15th that year). He made a big move at 3 miles and no one covered it because they assumed he'd just fall back to the pack, but never did.
I've heard something apocryphal about NCC having three or four individual xc champions on the same team one year. Like, three or four seniors, each of whom won it in one of the years, so that they were the team champions and had four individual champions on the podium at the same time. Would that have been in the 80s? Am I exaggerating my memory of the story, or did the storyteller exaggerate?
Carted Off wrote:
Catloaf wrote:As far as I know it's been done once before. In 1998, NCC's Eric Dieckman was the national champion, despite having never been AA and never winning a collegiate cross country race (he was always beaten by his teammate Collin Young, who was 15th that year). He made a big move at 3 miles and no one covered it because they assumed he'd just fall back to the pack, but never did.I've heard something apocryphal about NCC having three or four individual xc champions on the same team one year. Like, three or four seniors, each of whom won it in one of the years, so that they were the team champions and had four individual champions on the podium at the same time. Would that have been in the 80s? Am I exaggerating my memory of the story, or did the storyteller exaggerate?
The 1994 record setting team had 3 guys who eventually won titles - Mayer (who won that year), John Weigel (who won in 1995), and Matt Brill (who won in 1996). I'm not aware of anything beyond that.
"I've heard something apocryphal about NCC having three or four individual xc champions on the same team one year. Like, three or four seniors, each of whom won it in one of the years, so that they were the team champions and had four individual champions on the podium at the same time. Would that have been in the 80s? Am I exaggerating my memory of the story, or did the storyteller exaggerate?"
That's only partially true. In the early 90s, they had a string of national champs starting with Dan Mayer in 1993, John Weigel in 1995 (2nd in 1993 and 1994), and Matt Brill (25th in 1993, 2nd in 1995), so there was a period where 3 future national champs would have been on the same team, but 93 was the only year that all 3 of them were AA's in the same year.
Carted Off wrote:
Except that he was the top centennial guy at the regional meet that year, and made the conference look like clowns in the indoor 5k. There was just a ton of parity in the centennial last year until Karwoski turned into an absolute beast sometime in March.
Yeah, all fair points. Will we see a sub 15 not score at this year's centennial meet?
UW Oshkosh had a team in 2002 that won CC nationals, which included 3 national champions (5 if you include DMR):
Matt Groose (800,1500)
David Cisewski (5k)
John LeRoy (Steeple)
Pat Seger (DMR)
Paul Brown (DMR)
Also on the team:
Nick Boehlke (not sure of best finish but many time AA)
Phil Keskinen (top 3 in CC and indoors)
Eamon McKenna (5th 5k and many time AA)
i think they could have scored all 7 at nats that year and still beat second, but don't quote me on that.
WI fan wrote:
UW Oshkosh had a team in 2002 that won CC nationals, which included 3 national champions (5 if you include DMR):
Matt Groose (800,1500)
David Cisewski (5k)
John LeRoy (Steeple)
Pat Seger (DMR)
Paul Brown (DMR)
Also on the team:
Nick Boehlke (not sure of best finish but many time AA)
Phil Keskinen (top 3 in CC and indoors)
Eamon McKenna (5th 5k and many time AA)
i think they could have scored all 7 at nats that year and still beat second, but don't quote me on that.
This man speaks gospel!
Where are the baby nats results???
Women's results?
racing done two hours ago and no results up?
so what happened to that colorado college guy everyone was talkin about?
I bet a lot of D111 runners will be kicking ass in turkey trots this week :-)