• rofling
      • Fast 1600'ms out of Cali state meet! 6/5/2010 9:26PM
      • rofling
      • Event 4 Boys 1600 Meter Run
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        National: * 3:59.51 4/14/2001 Alan Webb (South Lakes, VA)
        State Meet: & 4:00.29 5/31/2008 German Fernandez (Riverbank)
        Name Year School Finals Points
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        Finals
        1 Elias Gedyon 11 Loyola/ss 4:21.12 10
        2 Ryan Urie 11 Ptrck Hnr/sd 4:21.44 8
        3 Philip MacQuitty 12 Palo Alto/cc 4:21.53 6
        4 Erik Olson 12 Novato/nc 4:21.99 5
        5 Germay Tesfai 12 Hoover/ce 4:22.67 4
        6 Hugh Dowdy 12 Petaluma/nc 4:22.98 3
        7 Travis Edwards 12 Royal/ss 4:23.47 2
        8 Javert Solorzano 12 Granada H/La 4:24.40 1
        9 Gustavo Mena 12 Oxnard /ss 4:25.25
        10 Justin Vilhauer 11 Redwood/ce 4:25.65
        11 Chris Brewer 11 Rnch Buna/sd 4:25.80
        12 Robert Pflasterer 11 Del Campo/sj 4:27.43

        It was probably windier than a mother, i didn't watch the race so i don't know if they went out EXTREMELEY slow or what happened. But seeing these times made me ROFL
    • rofling
      • RE: Fast 1600'ms out of Cali state meet! 6/5/2010 9:32PM - in reply to rofling
      • rofling
      • 400: 1:07
        800: 2:20.01

        Wind readings were 2.5-3.0 for hurdles so they were probably really feeling it in the back stretch.

        This means Gedyon closed in 1:59 so that's pretty damn fast.
    • Coach D
      • RE: Fast 1600'ms out of Cali state meet! 6/5/2010 9:41PM - in reply to rofling
      • Coach D
      • Jogging compared to what's going on elsewhere in the meet. Amber Purvis missed Marion Jones' National HS record in the 100m by 0.03.
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    • Bear of Bad News
      • RE: Fast 1600'ms out of Cali state meet! 6/5/2010 10:55PM - in reply to rofling
      • Bear of Bad News
      • It's a race, not a time trial. Nothing wrong with running a strategic race. I'm pretty sure that the runners are trying to win the race, not set a PR. Not sure why this makes you "ROFL".
    • fdgdfg
      • RE: Fast 1600'ms out of Cali state meet! 6/5/2010 11:04PM - in reply to Bear of Bad News
      • fdgdfg
      • Bear of Bad News wrote:
        It's a race, not a time trial. Nothing wrong with running a strategic race. I'm pretty sure that the runners are trying to win the race, not set a PR. Not sure why this makes you "ROFL".
        seeing lots of guys so close to each other and basically tripping on heels for 800m is pretty funny.
    • Coach D
      • RE: Fast 1600'ms out of Cali state meet! 6/5/2010 11:08PM - in reply to fdgdfg
      • Coach D
      • fdgdfg wrote:
        seeing lots of guys so close to each other and basically tripping on heels for 800m is pretty funny.
        Which lets them practice for an Olympic final
    • oldoldrunner
      • RE: Fast 1600'ms out of Cali state meet! 6/5/2010 11:14PM - in reply to Bear of Bad News
      • oldoldrunner
      • Bear of Bad News wrote:
        It's a race, not a time trial. Nothing wrong with running a strategic race. I'm pretty sure that the runners are trying to win the race, not set a PR. Not sure why this makes you "ROFL".
        Seems to me these young runners do not learn from history. Maybe I should say runners sans kick do not learn from history. For over 40 years I have watch runner sans speed allow 1500/mile/1600m races to go out so very slow and then get hammered in the last 300 meters. Its kinda funny when you're 4 to 5 seconds slower in an 800 meters to allow the pace to be tactical.I can not recall when the slow tactic won the race for the runner sans speed. Olson should have hammered from the get go and (as PRE used to say) put the crap in their legs.
    • craigmac4h
      • RE: Fast 1600'ms out of Cali state meet! 6/5/2010 11:18PM - in reply to oldoldrunner
      • craigmac4h
      • oldoldrunner wrote:
        Bear of Bad News wrote:
        It's a race, not a time trial. Nothing wrong with running a strategic race. I'm pretty sure that the runners are trying to win the race, not set a PR. Not sure why this makes you "ROFL".
        Seems to me these young runners do not learn from history. Maybe I should say runners sans kick do not learn from history. For over 40 years I have watch runner sans speed allow 1500/mile/1600m races to go out so very slow and then get hammered in the last 300 meters. Its kinda funny when you're 4 to 5 seconds slower in an 800 meters to allow the pace to be tactical.I can not recall when the slow tactic won the race for the runner sans speed. Olson should have hammered from the get go and (as PRE used to say) put the crap in their legs.
        1) How many times have you seen a miler with comparable times but an inferior kick hammer the whole way and win? He would have just served as their rabbit.

        2) Why did you capitalize Pre?
    • Coach D
      • RE: Fast 1600'ms out of Cali state meet! 6/5/2010 11:21PM - in reply to oldoldrunner
      • Coach D
      • Not Olson, since he was doubling, but I would think those that weren't doubling would want to push the pace. That would have forced guys like Gedyon to make a choice.
    • oldoldrunner
      • RE: Fast 1600'ms out of Cali state meet! 6/5/2010 11:24PM - in reply to craigmac4h
      • oldoldrunner
      • craigmac4h wrote:
        oldoldrunner wrote:
        Bear of Bad News wrote:
        It's a race, not a time trial. Nothing wrong with running a strategic race. I'm pretty sure that the runners are trying to win the race, not set a PR. Not sure why this makes you "ROFL".
        Seems to me these young runners do not learn from history. Maybe I should say runners sans kick do not learn from history. For over 40 years I have watch runner sans speed allow 1500/mile/1600m races to go out so very slow and then get hammered in the last 300 meters. Its kinda funny when you're 4 to 5 seconds slower in an 800 meters to allow the pace to be tactical.I can not recall when the slow tactic won the race for the runner sans speed. Olson should have hammered from the get go and (as PRE used to say) put the crap in their legs.
        1) How many times have you seen a miler with comparable times but an inferior kick hammer the whole way and win? He would have just served as their rabbit.

        2) Why did you capitalize Pre?
        1) At last years NCAA final. A runner that was 2 to 4 years younger than the field.

        2) To make Aholes like you ask.
    • oldoldrunner
      • RE: Fast 1600'ms out of Cali state meet! 6/5/2010 11:54PM - in reply to craigmac4h
      • oldoldrunner
      • craigmac4h wrote:
        oldoldrunner wrote:
        Bear of Bad News wrote:
        It's a race, not a time trial. Nothing wrong with running a strategic race. I'm pretty sure that the runners are trying to win the race, not set a PR. Not sure why this makes you "ROFL".
        Seems to me these young runners do not learn from history. Maybe I should say runners sans kick do not learn from history. For over 40 years I have watch runner sans speed allow 1500/mile/1600m races to go out so very slow and then get hammered in the last 300 meters. Its kinda funny when you're 4 to 5 seconds slower in an 800 meters to allow the pace to be tactical.I can not recall when the slow tactic won the race for the runner sans speed. Olson should have hammered from the get go and (as PRE used to say) put the crap in their legs.
        1) How many times have you seen a miler with comparable times but an inferior kick hammer the whole way and win? He would have just served as their rabbit.

        2) Why did you capitalize Pre?
        Sorry about the my last 2), but I never saw a Stop Pre t-shirt. It was always STOP PRE. That is why I capitalized the great one's name.
    • klm
      • RE: Fast 1600'ms out of Cali state meet! 6/6/2010 12:04AM - in reply to Coach D
      • klm
      • Coach D wrote:
        Not Olson, since he was doubling, but I would think those that weren't doubling would want to push the pace. That would have forced guys like Gedyon to make a choice.
        Force them to make a choice? If you're in a race, you don't save anything. He's not going to say to himself in the middle of the race, "oh, too fast better save some for the 3200m." They're going to go for it no matter what. And he would have won it even if it were 4:05.
    • Coach D
      • RE: Fast 1600'ms out of Cali state meet! 6/6/2010 12:07AM - in reply to oldoldrunner
      • Coach D
      • oldoldrunner wrote:
        Sorry about the my last 2), but I never saw a Stop Pre t-shirt. It was always STOP PRE. That is why I capitalized the great one's name.
        There's only one Great One and it isn't the big-mouth jerk who couldn't hold onto his bronze in the only race of his life that really mattered. He turned it into a "guts race" alright, but it was the guy kicking from behind that had the guts. And he set the stage for a whole town that can't win anything (unless they cheat).

        Fortunately Olson didn't listen to this expert advice, and he scored some points.
    • oldoldrunner
      • RE: Fast 1600'ms out of Cali state meet! 6/6/2010 1:03AM - in reply to Coach D
      • oldoldrunner
      • Coach D wrote:
        oldoldrunner wrote:
        Sorry about the my last 2), but I never saw a Stop Pre t-shirt. It was always STOP PRE. That is why I capitalized the great one's name.
        There's only one Great One and it isn't the big-mouth jerk who couldn't hold onto his bronze in the only race of his life that really mattered. He turned it into a "guts race" alright, but it was the guy kicking from behind that had the guts. And he set the stage for a whole town that can't win anything (unless they cheat).

        Fortunately Olson didn't listen to this expert advice, and he scored some points.
        Coach D must stand for Coach Dick, wich you are. I won't say sorry to that.
    • joecrunner
      • RE: Fast 1600'ms out of Cali state meet! 6/6/2010 1:06AM - in reply to rofling
      • joecrunner
      • Just remember, we're talking about a state that usually takes a sub 4:10 to win, and where a 1:53 800 does not make the final...
    • J.R.
      • RE: Fast 1600'ms out of Cali state meet! 6/6/2010 1:18AM - in reply to Coach D
      • J.R.
      • Coach D wrote:
        fdgdfg wrote:
        seeing lots of guys so close to each other and basically tripping on heels for 800m is pretty funny.
        Which lets them practice for an Olympic final
        Because they run 4:23 mile pace in Olympic finals.