NEW UK RECORD - FARAH BEATS KOGO AND THOMPSON AT BUPA 10000m

Wow, and I thought we Americans were slow. That's 45 seconds behind Solinsky! That's the UK record?!?

reverse angle wrote:

Wow, and I thought we Americans were slow. That's 45 seconds behind Solinsky! That's the UK record?!?

This was a road 10k. Thompson broke 27:30 in the race where Solinsky went 26:59. Should tell you something about how good of shape Farah is in.

Whats the US 10km track record? is 27:48 -Mark Nenow?

The OP is an idiot - they should have said 10km, NOT 10000m, in the thread headline. Then it could be inferred that it was a road race, NOT a track race.

The UK 10000m record is 27.18 by Jon Brown (who now represents Canada). Given that Dave Bedford ran 27.30 in 1973 (WR at the time), the UK hasn't really improved all that much in over 35 years.

who's on first wrote:

The OP is an idiot - they should have said 10km, NOT 10000m, in the thread headline. Then it could be inferred that it was a road race, NOT a track race.

The UK 10000m record is 27.18 by Jon Brown (who now represents Canada). Given that Dave Bedford ran 27.30 in 1973 (WR at the time), the UK hasn't really improved all that much in over 35 years.

The UK didn't really catch the EPO/blood doping bug.

You guys are just getting the hang of it now.

The OP is not an idiot; while the race was on the road and thus a "10k" rather than "10,000m", the name of the race is the "BUPA London 10,000". See the race website -

http://www.london10000.co.uk/site/

The question of why Nick Rose's 27:34 (New Orleans, 84) isn't the UK record seems to jump out at me though. Perhaps the course wasn't ratified to British governing body's satisfaction or somesuch.

I've heard this before about Rose's run, but its on here:

http://www.thepowerof10.info/rankings/rankinglist.aspx?event=10K&agegroup=ALL&sex=M&alltime=y

Indicates Farah can go under 27:30 on track

ukathleticscoach wrote:

I've heard this before about Rose's run, but its on here:

http://www.thepowerof10.info/rankings/rankinglist.aspx?event=10K&agegroup=ALL&sex=M&alltime=y

Indicates Farah can go under 27:30 on track

I'm sure Farah will go much quicker than 27.30, seeing as Thompson was 33 seconds behind him today and he ran 27.29 on the track.

As for the fool who said the OP was an idiot, you must feel like a tit after seeing what the actual name of the race is... dick!

who's on first wrote:

The OP is an idiot - they should have said 10km, NOT 10000m, in the thread headline. Then it could be inferred that it was a road race, NOT a track race.

The UK 10000m record is 27.18 by Jon Brown (who now represents Canada). Given that Dave Bedford ran 27.30 in 1973 (WR at the time), the UK hasn't really improved all that much in over 35 years.

I've never heard of the BUPA London Track Meet. It's on a Monday....?

It was quite obvious it was a road race despite writing 10000m

Congratulations to Mo. It's interesting to see what is possible to do competing 30 hours after coming from altitude (Mo left from Iten on Saturday evening only). He probably is the European using altitude training more frequently and with more knowledge

I like farah and think he is a great talent but in my opinion does not deliver fast times when it counts. It looks to me that running that sort of time now (depending on his goals for the season) is a bit too early.

As for solinksy I think he has blown his load this season already (hopefully I am wrong)

Mark Nenow ran 27:22 at the Crescent City Classic and later ran 27:20 on the track.

wow that sucks

Mo is a great guy, 100% British and trains hard. But it would be sad if a guy with East African genes takes all the UK records. A shame for any young Brits chasing those times.

I know there is no resolution for this. Mo is British and nationality has a broad mix of genes. I have no issue with this.

But on another level it seems unfair. I guess it is what it is.

Nenow and Farah had the same coach !

'But it would be sad if a guy with East African genes takes all the UK records'

Unlike most EA runners he was not born at altitude so does not have that advantage

I don't think there is much in it physically between Thompson and Farah. It's good that there are 2 of them currently running well and our male long distance runners while having a way to go are looking a lot better than a few years ago

ukathleticscoach wrote:

'But it would be sad if a guy with East African genes takes all the UK records'

Unlike most EA runners he was not born at altitude so does not have that advantage

ukaths, I'm completely unaware of any "advantage" a person would have from being born at altitude.

It appears that many EA runners have a small but possibly significant biomechanical advantage. It is also possible that some adaptation to altitude's lower O2 levels could have developed through generations.

It would seem pretty bizarre that actual birth place would lead to an advantage though.

I would have thought that any "advantage" Farah would have would be there at birth. If the EA's have the supposed advantage of "altitude" surely this would be inherent.

'the EA's have the supposed advantage of "altitude" surely this would be inherent.'

All the EA Africans elites were born at attitude. If it were inherent you would also see success from athletes with EA ancestory born away from high altitude areas

When I say born obviously they are going to live there too

I'm curious whether you have any science to back that up, not having a crack at you, just curious?

I think the link with living at altitude is still a bit questionable.

Do non EA people born and raised at altitude share this "advantage"?

I have seen no evidence of that.

Therefore I'd be left thinking it would be an inherent trait. I would think that any reasonably sustained exposure to altitude would then develop it to the same degree.