Is it outright illegal for athletes to use performance enhancing methods (blood doping, HGH, etc.) or is it only illegal for competitive athletes? I am aware that competitive athletes can be busted for doping during training, but what about purely recreational runners? If a guy wants only to run a lot of fast mileage in the wilderness for the rest of his life, is it ok for that man to dope his face off?
Usually an athlete is going to need cooperation from a doctor for these things and the doc will not be able to prescribe them without violating some part of the controlled substances act or something similar. I understand it is pretty rampant in 'anti-aging clinics' and similar but those doctors do sometimes get busted for it.
Here's a reprint of a story an amateur cyclist wrote for outside magazine about his experiments with PEDs:
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/aas-epo-article-outside-magazine-552736.html
As far as I know it is legal for anyone to dope.
Competetive runners that dope are breaking rules not laws.
It is illegal to distribute.
Then there is possession with intent to distribute.
Then there are possion laws too.
But I think if you can some how take it without possessing it then that would be legal.
Keep in mind that I am a random poster on an internet site that has done no research on this and his speaking based off of limited knowledge.
How many athletes have faced criminal charges for doping?
Tim Montgomery was arrested for check fraud and Marion Jones for perjury.
No one's going to drug test an amateur, but bear in mind that PEDs are very expensive drugs. Professionals can afford them and have a motivation to use them because their use can lead to better performances and financial rewards. There's no such motivation for a non-world class athlete.
just ask these a-holes. perusing this board is mind-blowing (and not in a good way).
X-Runner wrote:
As far as I know it is legal for anyone to dope.
Competetive runners that dope are breaking rules not laws.
It is illegal to distribute.
Then there is possession with intent to distribute.
Then there are possion laws too.
But I think if you can some how take it without possessing it then that would be legal.
Keep in mind that I am a random poster on an internet site that has done no research on this and his speaking based off of limited knowledge.
How many athletes have faced criminal charges for doping?
Tim Montgomery was arrested for check fraud and Marion Jones for perjury.
Actually, it is illegal, they're not just breaking the "rules". Professionals who get caught doping have to face legal action. It's basically fraud, because they were getting paid for winning races and wearing certain logos under the basis that they were a clean athlete.
So far they have chosen to go after the fraudulent doctors who are prescribing these things instead of after the users. It's a legal strategy that the feds think will be more effective in deterring future use. That doesn't mean the users are not doing something illegal.
Pretty much all of the drugs (EPO, HGH, the various steroids) are controlled substances whose possession is illegal if you don't have a doctors prescription. I don't think many doctors will write you one because you tell them that you want to run faster.
MilkDrinker wrote:
Is it outright illegal for athletes to use performance enhancing methods (blood doping, HGH, etc.) or is it only illegal for competitive athletes? I am aware that competitive athletes can be busted for doping during training, but what about purely recreational runners? If a guy wants only to run a lot of fast mileage in the wilderness for the rest of his life, is it ok for that man to dope his face off?
adsfas wrote:
Pretty much all of the drugs (EPO, HGH, the various steroids) are controlled substances whose possession is illegal if you don't have a doctors prescription.
In the U.S...
1) Some Rx PEDs, such as testosterone, ARE controlled substances. Some PEDs, such as EPO (the best one for distance runners) are NOT scheduled.
2) There are NON-Rx PEDs, such as prohormones, IGF-1 and SARMs, which are available online to anyone with a credit card and a clue.
3) Some Rx PEDs are Rx'd rather easily. It is very easy to get scripts for Androgel & Adderall, for example.
Les wrote:
No one's going to drug test an amateur, but bear in mind that PEDs are very expensive drugs. Professionals can afford them and have a motivation to use them because their use can lead to better performances and financial rewards. There's no such motivation for a non-world class athlete.
A rational enough perspective but the fact is that, for example, sub-elite cyclists and triathletes will spend thousands of dollars on high-level equipment for their avocations. Why do they do it? Because their looking for an edge and some level of recognition in their respective communities. Competitive age group runners can be subject to the same motivations, however "irrational". There is a recent example of a "star" age group American sprinter being busted at the World Masters meet. Travel to these meets is expensive, the drugs are expensive, and there's nothing but a medal as a reward, but, apparently, people still do it.
I can forgive a professional elite athlete's decision to use PEDs because that is the unfortunate competitive reality of the world in which we live. Age groupers doing it is really annoying.
Go to any "anti aging" clinic and you'll get the hook up. Just be prepared to write some fat checks.
those who take steroids = small penis
You don't really think that do you ?
Or are you really that dumb that believes everything that is fed to him?
Think about intuitively...
Testosterone is responsible for sex organ development during puberty.
Why would that same chemical ever cause the opposite to happen?
...dumbass
Blutsbrüderschaft wrote:
Testosterone is responsible for sex organ development during puberty.
Why would that same chemical ever cause the opposite to happen?
...dumbass
Well, taking artificial testosterone will suppress your bodies natural production. This is well known.
Mr. Obvious wrote:
Usually an athlete is going to need cooperation from a doctor for these things and the doc will not be able to prescribe them without violating some part of the controlled substances act or something similar. I understand it is pretty rampant in 'anti-aging clinics' and similar but those doctors do sometimes get busted for it.
ever hear of the internet? You can get anything your heart desires. Weight lifters do it all the time.
Blutsbrüderschaft wrote:
You don't really think that do you ?
Or are you really that dumb that believes everything that is fed to him?
Think about intuitively...
Testosterone is responsible for sex organ development during puberty.
Why would that same chemical ever cause the opposite to happen?
...dumbass
Hey kids stop the arguing. It gives you small testicles, the penis still works very, very, well.
RuKiddingMe! wrote:
ever hear of the internet? You can get anything your heart desires. Weight lifters do it all the time.
Yes, I am aware that a lot of people do that. It is illegal for many of those substances. Chances of getting prosecuted is probably pretty low unless you are re-selling but it is still illegal to buy steroids or other controlled substances that way.
He wasn't far off. It doesn't make your penis shrink but your testicles sure will.
Negative feedback buddy. If you have the stuff (testosterone) at really high levels your testes don't need to produce any more so they will shrink.
Don't be so quick to try to act all smart because now you just look stupid.
Mr. Obvious wrote:
Blutsbrüderschaft wrote:Testosterone is responsible for sex organ development during puberty.
Why would that same chemical ever cause the opposite to happen?
...dumbass
Well, taking artificial testosterone will suppress your bodies natural production. This is well known.
If you take testosterone, your penis size will not change much, but it will often be marginally larger both when flacid and when erect (DHT has that effect). Your libido will also go through the roof. Your testicles will atrophy, temporarily while on testosterone, unless you also take hCG. If you take testosterone & hCG, you will have a marginally larger penis, no atrophy of your testicles (they may actually increase in size), much better erections and a the libido a 14-year old boy would envy.