1 year to get my time 800m time to 1:55 from 2:01.

Describe in general the kind of training and mileage you have been doing the last 2 years...that is pretty important...

I generally have only trained for the 2 or 3 months a year when Spring track occurs and sometimes during the winter months. I also do Cross Country but that is a completely different type of training. My Spring track training consists of a 5-7 mile run on 2 days a week, a speed workout on 1 day a week, a pre-meet short/light run 1 day a week, and a meet 1 day a week. We don't do any lifting, hills, or plyometrics.

What is your e-mail and can pay for your training?

800mDude wrote:

I generally have only trained for the 2 or 3 months a year when Spring track occurs and sometimes during the winter months. I also do Cross Country but that is a completely different type of training. My Spring track training consists of a 5-7 mile run on 2 days a week, a speed workout on 1 day a week, a pre-meet short/light run 1 day a week, and a meet 1 day a week. We don't do any lifting, hills, or plyometrics.

omg no lifting, START LIFTING NOW, 800m runners need to do weight training in my opinion all runners do, it will help you so much, also hills, damn man bad coach

Nah sorry I'm only in high school so paying for training probably isn't possible.

Nan coaching your ass free is not possible

This thread is pretty incredible:

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=2669719

Over 60 pages long. That's sub-1:50 training, but the same concepts apply.

the 800 was my favourite event. without knowing you well enough, it is too hard to give you advice. I could only tell you what I did when younger and what I do now.

I say train year round. Do mostly the same training year round, just use different intensities at different times of the year. I think Lydiard didn't like young runners racing more than 1 race per meet but I would run 2 if I were in high school. 800 metres runners need more mileage than many think, in my opinion. Today I race from 400 metres to the 1/2 marathon and use the same training for all my distances. Saturday, I ran an 8 in 2:01.47 so we are about the same right now.

When I trained specifically for the 800 as my first event I trained generally like this.

Sunday--60 to 90 minutes slowly and easily. I would run on various surfaces and went barefoot for half the run on the softer surfaces (*I grew up running barefoot though just so you understand). I liked a rolling course to build strength. I'd walk 30 minutes.

Monday-- I took it easy. I'd ride a bike slowly for 30 minutes. I'd walk for 30-60 minutes. I lifted 2 sets of upper body weights and 1 set for lower. If I ran I'd go for about 30 minutes. I'd go through a thorough stretching program. I might swim 30 minutes. Overall, it took hours and was achieved in 2 practises.

Tuesday-- I'd run Speed Endurance on a Fartlek run or track. I used to do too little like 4-62 400s. Today, I run something longer for strength like 4-1000s @ 72 pace for 3:00 with only 200 metres jogs. Then I go right into 4- 400m in about 68s with 200m jogs. (The other day I ran 68,69,68,67). I don't want to go too fast here. My warmups and cool downs are long and this is where I include my barefoot running. Usually 20 mins easy jogging & then 10 mins more where I run 30 seconds striders with 90 secs jogs. Stretch how you need it. Massage yourself. I walk too. (* I walk everyday just so you understand).

Wednesday-- Like Monday. But also know that when I take a day off it will be on a Monday or Wednesday and I do it when I FEEL like it (about 1 time a week) but I always walk at least 1 hour.

Thursday-- So fun because it is Sprints. Can be fartlek or on track. On Fartlek I do 15-20 sprints by feel. They can be anywhere from 10 seconds to 40 seconds and the recovery jogs are run util a 2 minute segment is done. So s 20 seconds sprint will have a 100 seconds jog. If on a soft surface this is where I go barefoot. The warmup and cooldown for me is at least 20 minutes each.

Friday-- Like M & F.

Saturday-- I race or I time trial. If you are like me you will want to race or time trial at different distances. I treat my TT like races. I warmup etc. just like a race and I run different distances. I avoid doing them with others. See tomorrow I may run a 5K and then Saturday I'm running a rare 1200m. But for you I would probably keep the race distances down to what your high school runs because I'm thinking you may want to go to university as a runner.

Make sure you EAT WELL including breakfast. I eat about 2200 cals a day. I eat often, and my body never feels that it is starving. I take some vitamins. I'm careful about any medicines. Later, I have to get my sleep now. Yes, make sure you get the sleep you need. Good Luck!

Before you blow any money on "coaching", I strongly suggest you get hold of copies of "Healthy Intelligent Training" (great advice and great fun to read) and "Daniels Running Formula" (how to construct a schedule, geared to the US year). Read some more threads here, and try to understand the BIG picture - don't cherrypick track sessions. Then have an end-of-season break and get to work on a gentle aerobic base in the summer...

thanks for all the advice guys! seems like you really know what your talking about

i also run the 800 i went to regionals this year and did pretty decient i improved my time by 9 sec in two weeks all my coach had me doing was the weight room and about 2-5 ladders a day and a few distance things. ]

bump... anyone else have any ideas for me?

Feel free to send me an e-mail and I can try to give you some advice about ideas I have to help (free of cost).

just run baby

You are the same guy on the run zone. So Tinman training is not working out. I could have told you it was no good at all!!