I can't find a place online where these are posted, so I'm hoping we can get together a list of various colleges and their standards. Please post yours if they aren't already in this thread. Specific schools I'd be very happy to see walk-on distance times for:
Brown
U of Chicago
Cornell
MIT
Stanford
Wash. U in St. Louis
Penn
U of Michigan -- Ann Arbor
Columbia
Carnegie Mellon
U of Illinois -- Urbana-Champaign
Princeton
UC Berkeley
U of Washington
Penn State -- University Park
Penn: 3:58 / 4:20 (1500/mile) circa early 2000s
MIT is pretty lenient since they support a JV squad and are DIII:
5k TT: 17:30
8k XC: 30 minutes
No official cutoffs for track, but the slower people quit pretty quickly because nobody likes getting lapped in indoor. I think all runners are at or under 16 for 5k.
A lot of those schools are d3, where everyone is a "walk-on." Most d3 schools have some sort of cut off to travel to races, but beyond that they are fairly open, as long as you are willing to put in the miles.
Obviously, Stanford's are going to be far more elite than the others you have listed.
Animal Pharm wrote:
Penn: 3:58 / 4:20 (1500/mile) circa early 2000s
Wow! Those are walk-on, not to be recruited? I didn't realize Penn was good.
@trois: Although nobody gets scholarship money at DIII schools, you can be recruited--as in, they help you get in. So walk-on standards are a distinct thing, for people who couldn't get in based off running but want to run anyway. That's what I'm interested in. I think I'll be at about 4:35-4:40 and 9:45-9:50 at the end of senior year and I want to know where I can run.
trois wrote:
A lot of those schools are d3, where everyone is a "walk-on." Most d3 schools have some sort of cut off to travel to races, but beyond that they are fairly open, as long as you are willing to put in the miles.
Perhaps you're a little unclear on the meaning of "walk-on."
I walked on with 4:30 but I didn't travel to big meets until 4:20
Hunted wrote:
Animal Pharm wrote:Penn: 3:58 / 4:20 (1500/mile) circa early 2000s
Wow! Those are walk-on, not to be recruited? I didn't realize Penn was good.
@trois: Although nobody gets scholarship money at DIII schools, you can be recruited--as in, they help you get in. So walk-on standards are a distinct thing, for people who couldn't get in based off running but want to run anyway. That's what I'm interested in. I think I'll be at about 4:35-4:40 and 9:45-9:50 at the end of senior year and I want to know where I can run.
Most UAA schools will let you walk on with a 9:45. Talk to the coaches beforehand, though, so they know you're interested. You probably won't be heavily recruited, but who cares? It's DIII anyway.
Anyone have women's walk on standards too?
Washington State University
2 mile: 9:20
Mile: 4:18
800m: 1:56
Yeah, please include both women's standards and standards for all high school distances (800m/1600m/3200m) if you have them!
Bump... please, any more help guys?
Brown and Michigan especially?
The female walk-on time standards at Princeton are an 11:40 in the 3200. The equivalent in the 3000m would be a tick under 11:00. You also have to talk to the coach to be sure you understand the level of commitment required in the program.
Bump for more womens times
Hunted wrote:
Bump... please, any more help guys?
Brown and Michigan especially?
Step 1: Go to the school's track website.
Step 2: Email the coach and ask.
Step 3: Read the response email.
At Colgate if you're breathing then congrats you've made the team!
I've coached at schools so small we didn't have walk-on tryouts. We had walk-on try ons. "here try on this uniform. It fits? Sweet, you're on the team"
At my school we didn't have walk-on standards. If someone was interested in running there and wasn't some stud that they were recruiting, they would call the coach and talk to him. If he liked them okay and they were pretty decent runners (I'd say 4:2x mile or the equivalent at another distance) then he would let them walk on. They let anyone on the girls team.
their coach is very lenient on walk on standards. I did a visit there, even though I'm not necessarily a DI quality athlete. If you are under 5:15 in the mile, 2:18 in the 800, and 19:00 in XC, they'll talk to you.