So maybe Bob Kennedy wasn't so great after all.

Kennedy ran roughly 14 years ago. That fact that only 4 white guys ran faster is a testament to his greatness.

15 years later we SHOULD have 4 guys running faster than previous record holders.

How many times did Bob Kennedy go sub-13?

He was crazy good.

If you're really asking this question, you're an idiot. If you're trying to get a rise out of people who care about such things, you're an idiot.

Hey, at least you're consistent.

happy ho wrote:

How many times did Bob Kennedy go sub-13?

He was crazy good.

Two times.

logs upon logs wrote:

Now that we have at least 4 white guys currently running who could beat his old record.

Yeah, and the Titanic was a small boat, too.

Let's not forget, Kennedy also went 7:30 in the 3K. How many guys have beaten that?

Bob Kennedy was extremely good

Krayzelburg wrote:

Let's not forget, Kennedy also went 7:30 in the 3K. How many guys have beaten that?

I think Solinksy and Teg can get under that record.

Pad Berson wrote:

Bob Kennedy was extremely good

Bob was a stud and humble and cool ! He was a role model to each of these fine young runners and he was a beast at workouts.

How many European races did Kennedy win?

nope. none of them can. They have been racing the 3K for a number of years and nothing indicates sub 7.30.

Different era. Bob was great for his era. Someone else will show up within the next 20 years to eclipse Solinnsky's great run. That is just the way it is.

how close was kennedy to the world record at the time of his 12:58?

On a similar note of comparing this performance with those of 90s american runners, whats so great about Todd williams? I am not trying to be an asshole, but I am pretty young so I don't remember him. From his wikipedia, I get that he ran 27:31, but it also says he dnf'ed the Olympics in 1996. I have heard on numerous occasions that he was the best american 10k guy of the 90's, but I am just not that impressed.

yyy wrote:

nope. none of them can. They have been racing the 3K for a number of years and nothing indicates sub 7.30.

26:59 does

Todd Williams was in the top ten at the World Championships twice and was tenth at the Olympics at a time when no one else from the U.S. was doing anything.

logs upon logs wrote:

Now that we have at least 4 white guys currently running who could beat his old record.

And all of them are named 'Everyone Else'.

12:56.3 Everyone Else 28 Aug 2009 Zürich SUI

12:58.2 Robert Kennedy 14 Aug 1996 Zurich SUI

12:58.6 Everyone Else 4 Sep 2009 Brussels BEL

12:58.7 Robert Kennedy- 8 Jul 1996 Stockholm SWE

12:59.2 Everyone Else 28 Jul 2006 London ENG

12:59.3 Everyone Else 4 Sep 2005 Berlin GER

13:01.2 Everyone Else 27 Jul 1985 Oslo NOR

13:02.9 Robert Kennedy- 22 Jul 1994 Oslo NOR

13:03.1 Everyone Else 30 May 2009 New York NY

13:03.4 Robert Kennedy- 16 Aug 1995 Zurich SUI

13:03.6 Robert Kennedy- 1 Sep 1998 Berlin GER

13:04.0 Robert Kennedy- 7 Sep 1996 Milano ITA

13:04.9 Everyone Else 25 Jul 2006 Stockholm SWE

13:05.2 Robert Kennedy- 14 Jul 1998 Rome ITA

13:05.5 Robert Kennedy- 11 Aug 1999 Zurich SUI

13:05.9 Robert Kennedy- 8 Jul 1994 Villeneuve d'Ascq FRA

13:06.1 Robert Kennedy- 30 Aug 1996 Berlin GER

13:06.6 Robert Kennedy- 7 Jul 1997 Stockholm SWE

13:07.4 Everyone Else 14 Sep 2007 Brussels BEL

13:07.7 Robert Kennedy- 13 Aug 1997 Zurich SUI

13:08.0 Everyone Else 18 Jul 2009 Heusden BEL

13:08.4 Robert Kennedy- 7 Jul 1999 Rome ITA

13:09.6 Robert Kennedy- 21 Jul 1995 Oslo NOR

13:07.97 Everyone Else 18 Jul 2009 Heusden BEL

13:08.43 Robert Kennedy- 7 Jul 1999 Rome ITA

13:09.64 Robert Kennedy- 21 Jul 1995 Oslo NOR

Love your work George!

Hopefully that puts it into perspective.