Faster than Beijing Marathon of 2:06, which many believe was the best ever. Rob C, ran without rabbits and negative split on what many consider the hardest road marathon course in the world.
Faster than Beijing Marathon of 2:06, which many believe was the best ever. Rob C, ran without rabbits and negative split on what many consider the hardest road marathon course in the world.
Bill Peterson wrote:
Faster than Beijing Marathon of 2:06, which many believe was the best ever. Rob C, ran without rabbits and negative split on what many consider the hardest road marathon course in the world.
Boston is not that hard, come on man. Beijing is still the best, much better field, worse conditions. Plus Wanjiru took it from the gun.
Yes, Boston is a harder course. But I still say Beijing was best. As mentioned, Wanjiru took that thing from the gun, the Beijing course was not exactly Berlin flat, don't forget the pollution, and it was August! Temps today in Boston were quite nice compared to Beijing.
Wanjiru was well ahead of WR pace in the blazing heat of Beijing and won it wire to wire, dropping anybody crazy enough to try and hang with him.
Today's Boston was a good run, but on a perfect day with a nice tailwind. I can't fathom calling the two remotely comparable.
a significant tailwind today. Not really a course record.
Since it is a point-to-point course course records don't make sense.
He had two rabbits. Hall early in the race, and then Merga past 30k.
The people that think it's the hardest road marathon course in the world...who thinks that? It's not even the hardest major. New York is.
I think Boston was harder than New York personally, but you're right, its not even close to the hardest road marathon.
There are some that are designed to be difficult to finish.
This was an incredible run. Has to go down as one of the best ever. To run what he ran on the Boston course is just frightening. A sub 1:03 second 1/2 in Boston even off a slowish (which today was just over 1:03 so not slow) pace is unbelievable. Throw in about 3-4 surges during the race where the pace dropped to 4:30 ish miles just makes this performance really special.
Wanjiru did not take Beijing from the gun. Merga was pushing the pace just as much as Wanjiru. Lel and Gharib were basically hanging on, but they were up there until at least mile 20 too.
Beijing was still the more impressive performance though.
Dingler wrote:Wanjiru did not take Beijing from the gun.At what point in the race was he NOT either leading or right near the front of the lead group?
Pete wrote:
Today's Boston was a good run, but on a perfect day with a nice tailwind. I can't fathom calling the two remotely comparable.
It was a crosswind.
Bill Peterson wrote:
Faster than Beijing Marathon of 2:06, which many believe was the best ever. Rob C, ran without rabbits and negative split on what many consider the hardest road marathon course in the world.
All it says is that Cheruiyot didn't get beat up on the downhills the way almost every other runner who has ever stepped on that course has.
Top 3 best ever
Spoken by someone who has never run it, right?
I've run it, and I ran 11 miles on the course at 9 this morning. There was a nice tailwind although it did swirl a bit at times. It was an amazing run. It was also an almost perfect day. Almost every other club level guy I know ran 2-4 minutes better than expected today as well. I'd say these are the ideal conditions that everyone hopes for when they are training through the winter with hopes of running a good time on this course.
a lot of pros have run PRs at Boston, so why should this be the greatest Marathon run ever when its not even within 2 minutes of the world record?
No one who knows of the existence of at least three marathon courses thinks Boston is the toughest course. But it is far tougher than all of the others where 2:05s or better have been run.
Because of who he had to tangle with early and how he hung on, I might still say Wanjiru in Beijing is the greatest marathon race...but this 2:05:52 in Boston might be the best "result."
[quote]gfgdg wrote:
a lot of pros have run PRs at Boston,
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like who?
Pete wrote:
Dingler wrote:Wanjiru did not take Beijing from the gun.At what point in the race was he NOT either leading or right near the front of the lead group?
Right near the front in not leading the race from wire to wire.
A lot of guys I raced against had marathon pr's from the Boston Marathon of 1994. Its where Bob Kempainen ran his 2:08. Big tailwind that year.