David McNeill!!!!!

Where and when was this?

stanford

It was at the Stanford Invite.

...solo.....nice....right after a 5/3 double....

McNamara good debut(?) too...

yeah...McNeil has not been getting the credit he deserves lately..the 5kwin/3krunner up, the runner up in XC the fast 10k awhile back, now an early outdoor 13:25 winning by 5 seconds. I know he is a foreigner...but you gotta respect this guy.

Won by 10secs.. not 5. Commonwealth Games Qualifier too....

12 Robert Cheseret US Army 13:55.55

coming to an Olympic team near you.

That's certainly optimistic.

thetruthis wrote:

I know he is a foreigner...but he's white.

Fixed.

David McReil wrote:

12 Robert Cheseret US Army 13:55.55

coming to an Olympic team near you.

Has he been injured or something?

Cheseret joined the military about a year ago and has been busy with military training. That is more than a year of no run-training. I am surprised he did so well after just about two months of training. A few weeks ago, he won a 5k road race in 15 minutes. His training seems to be ahead of schedule. By summer he should be running around 13:20 if not faster.

Tackle football wrote:

thetruthis wrote:

I know he is a foreigner...but he's white.

Fixed.

yeah because no one respected chelanga after his 10k record last year...

douche

David McReil wrote:

12 Robert Cheseret US Army 13:55.55

coming to an Olympic team near you.

I remember when this guy was simply unbeatable in the Pac-10 at pretty much any distance and cross country until Rupp finally got him in cross. Now Oregon has 3 guy whipping him at 5K and one of them is a miler.

I'm sure he'll get faster but it's strange to see.

As per McNeil, great effort but he looked like he was ready to race NCAA's last night so we'll see if he can hang on. The arkansas lad opened in 13:30 solo last year and held on well so we'll see. Interesting to note that as good as this looked there were a couple freshman and a handful of underclassmen last year running around this time later in the season. It'll need to be a fast race to hold of a guy like McNamara in Eugene. I think that was McNamaras first 5K in like 3 or more years so he should only be getting better as the season progresses and he has a good finish.

did anyone really NOT see this coming? hes run some solid 10k's and just came off a stellar indoor season where he ran 13:3x....

congrats david!! but i think you knew, as well as we did, you had this in you.

Daniel Komen wrote:

Cheseret joined the military about a year ago and has been busy with military training. That is more than a year of no run-training. I am surprised he did so well after just about two months of training.

Yeah, because they never run in boot camp or afterwards.

um, you don't know what the f*** you are talking about. boot camp is a joke running wise, if he went OCS they don't run either. Believe it or not, in the Army you have a job to do, its long hours, any running is recreational and has to be done ass early or when you are dog tired after work. go f***ing die, cheseret will be in better shape in a few months but also has the army to deal with

How stupid are people on this message board?

'Running' in boot camp is doing 1-3 miles at 9 minutes a mile in boots. It is hardly training.

What does it take for a guy to qualify for the Army's WCAP program? Has Cheseret hit the standards? I assume if he has (or does), he has (or will have) a pretty decent training environment, no?

To qualify for the WCAP you simply have to hit an Olympic Trials qualifier timer which Cheseret has done in the past.