Wow.
Things are not dull in Eugene these days.
Wow.
Things are not dull in Eugene these days.
This could get interesting.
Ahh. All makes sense now. Vin's used Nike leverage to push Mike out of his job so he could have it himself. Then had to miss NCAA Indoors with health concerns, when Mike punched him in the face.
Just kidding.... seriously, just kidding...
Since Bellotti took over as athletic director, the university’s two highest-profile sports programs have faced adversity.
While the football team landed a Rose Bowl berth for the first time since 1995, three key players found themselves in trouble on and off the field. Running back LaGarrette Blount punched a Boise State player after a loss in the team’s first 2009 game. Blount was suspended for four games.
Quarterback Jeremiah Masoli was suspended for the 2010 season after pleading guilty to a fraternity house burglary. Running back LaMichael James was suspended for one game after pleading guilty to a misdemeanor harassment charge. Several other players have also been in trouble with the law.
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Maybe the "Duck" level of integrity isn't good enough for the University.
Why don't they just get it over with and have Knight come forward as the new AD. It would simply recognize once and for all what has existed for over 10 years.
I always thought the reason that the reason Vin went to Oregon was to be AD, that's why his title is assistant ad in charge of track and field and cross country, or something like that.
If all Bellotti accomplished in 1 year as AD was to fire Ernie Kent as the Basketball coach, then the year was a tremendous success, why that clown was allowed to coach for so long is something I will never figure out.
So, assuming Vin takes over as AD, who is the new head coach at Oregon? Might we see a return of Dan Steele? IMHO that would be an excellent choice.
Or they could right past wrongs and bring back Pat Tyson.
if Vin has blood pressure problems with the job he has now, he'll have a full on MI with the Athletic Director gig.
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Or they could right past wrongs and bring back Pat Tyson.
Oregon is all about deals with the devil nowadays.
Yes, but Oregon is a high profile program in the collegiate sports, so there will be a lot of interest in anything Oregon. I'm sure that Vin would like the AD job, but he is already co-chair of the 2012 Olympic Trials, the head coach for men's and women's track and field and working hard on fundraising for the new Indoor track. Is all this enough for Vin, especially with the blood pressure concern? He would be an incredible AD, but will he go for it? If he does, Oregon can get anyone they want for the head track and field job. Truly interesting (and exciting) times in Eugene.
At $1.5 mil per year, I'm sure he'll take it.
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Or they could right past wrongs and bring back Pat Tyson.
Please, if the alumni (in other words his former teammates) believed that Pat Tyson was "all that," they would have highly recommended him for the Lananna staff and he would have been there.
If Tyson was made of the cloth to be a major college coach he a). wouldn't have stayed so long as an obscure high school coach, and b). he would have gotten himself qualified and into college coaching long ago. Ambition and leadership are part of the game.
Additionally, there are better running Duck alums to fill Vin's seat as a coach, than Tyson. Inclusing who Dellinger recommended. And, Salazar if he wanted it (obviously) would be a better coach than Tyson.
And there is probably only one Duck Track alum who could come close as a leader to Vin...and it is one of about 3 candidates that I can think of...and few of us would be qualified to do the vetting, so everyone can pick their favorite 3 candidates.
I just hope Vin is satisfied where he is, doesn't get promoted to AD, and isn't offended and retires if not promoted to AD.
Daffy Duck wrote:
Oregon is all about deals with the devil nowadays.
The entire NCAA is the devil.
If you are immaturely and jealously referring to Nike...
Well, Nike was born 100% from Oregon Track. Any symbiotic relationship of mutual appreciation between the two is as natural as any alumni benefactor to any college. Probably more so.
The NCAA makes a fortune off of football and basketball players...and then leaves them with a pathetic graduation rate.
I can tell you for a fact that PK and company have higher standards than that.
And Oregon runners wore Adidas in the '70s and '80s. Nothing "immature and jealous" about it. I don't recall hearing about any bad seeds in the football or basketball program before there was a push to build those teams into powers on the national scene after they had been cellar dwellers for decades in the Pac-10. So something changed, starting in the late '90s. To believe that Nike had nothing to do with that culture change is naively delusional.
Running Company wrote:
And Oregon runners wore Adidas in the '70s and '80s. Nothing "immature and jealous" about it. I don't recall hearing about any bad seeds in the football or basketball program before there was a push to build those teams into powers on the national scene after they had been cellar dwellers for decades in the Pac-10. So something changed, starting in the late '90s. To believe that Nike had nothing to do with that culture change is naively delusional.
In the late 70's Oregon was given shoes by Nike. We were not required to run in them, but most of us did.
I don't know what point you are trying to make? It seems like you are saying we ran in Adidas in the 70's and 80's until Nike got involved?
That is not the case.
We had shoes by Nike from 76 on, we could and did wear anything to work out it. We had work out sweats from Russell Athletic (if memory serves), we had another brand of sweats for races, we had rain suits by Adidas, gear bags by another company... And our uniforms were a melange of what was left from previous seasons and what a local track mom made for the team.
There was a brief period where Dellinger did a deal with Adidas for the "Oregon Web," and so more Adidas were around then.
As to "Bad Seeds" on any sports teams back then, getting into trouble...well you did not have an internet, 2 sports networks and as much press paid attention to off field troubles. I can tell you for a fact that there were bad seeds, there were guys that got in trouble, and back in that day it was not reported in the papers all the time. (First the football teams sucked and Autzen was half empty, so much so the Daily Emerald one joked that it was a nice quiet place to study on a Saturday. I can tell you for a fact that some guys on the track team ran into trouble with the law back in that day, minor, but it did not make the local paper. Probably there was some courtesy given if requested by the local press -- which was really just the RG.
Nike's donations to Oregon are a wonderful thing. These kinds of donations to any college by an alumn are generous boons for updating facilities. Today's athletes that have gotten into trouble are more a symptom of recruiting marginal character guys, when you are up against such a competitive recruiting environment.
I can tell you this dynamic is changing as you read.
Lastly, they are college kids and no matter how well you recruit you are going to have some young people make stupid decisions.
The relationship isn't necessarily automatic. And Nebraska and Oklahoma players got into trouble and it was reported in the press long before the existence of the blogosphere. Players punching opponents on national tv or being in trouble with the law on the level of pleading guilty to felonies is not exposed to the public just because of the "internet, 2 sports networks, blah blah blah." That sort of stuff would be "in the papers all the time" if it had happened back then. UO wouldn't be involved in "such a competitive recruiting environment" if they weren't pushing to put teams that can compete on a national level on the field and in the arena.
If Vin were to become AD it would go against the national trend. Most colleges are hiring MBA types these days to run the athletic departments. Of course UO has a huge advantage in that Knight is basically an ATM. How much other fundraising does UO do?
Imagine if Vin were AD and Salazar the coach. Oregon would give Arkansas a run for most dominate team in history.
Running Company wrote:
The relationship isn't necessarily automatic. And Nebraska and Oklahoma players got into trouble and it was reported in the press long before the existence of the blogosphere. Players punching opponents on national tv or being in trouble with the law on the level of pleading guilty to felonies is not exposed to the public just because of the "internet, 2 sports networks, blah blah blah." That sort of stuff would be "in the papers all the time" if it had happened back then. UO wouldn't be involved in "such a competitive recruiting environment" if they weren't pushing to put teams that can compete on a national level on the field and in the arena.
You don't read, listen or comprehend very well, do you.
You're wife must really love you.
I can tell you for a fact that law breaking incidents at Oregon in the 70's and 80's were in fact kept out of the Eugene press as a courtesy.
Officers often let "known entities" off the hook, as far as taking them into the "station," and booking them.
They would, however call the head coach and let him know the whole story. And the your transgression would then be known to the whole team in the form of a cautionary tale, embarassment, punishment, "You're off them team until..." And "one more such incident, and I don't care who you are, you will be off this team forever."
You have to understand that Eugene in the 70's and early 80's was a lot like the 1950's somewhere else. I know of at least several stories that today would have made the press, had legal consequences, and in one case something a little worse.
All of this, through no agreement, but through a friendly "town and gown" relationship, were directed to the attention of the head coaches.
You think you know what you are talking about; I know what I saw.