Seems like the times for indoor this year are the fastest ever. How many athletes do you think they will take in the mile, 3k and 5k?
Seems like the times for indoor this year are the fastest ever. How many athletes do you think they will take in the mile, 3k and 5k?
Did you try reading pages 12 through 14?
http://web1.ncaa.org/web_files/champ_handbooks/track_field_indoor/2010/09_1_mw_indoortrack.pdf
17 seems likely as its so strong this year
This gives some idea.
NCAA Final Qualifiers:
Last Time (Athletes)
14 Year Average (1996-2009)
6.67 (17.21)
21.15 (16.21)
46.79 (16.36)
1:49.16 (16.29)
4:02.62 (15.71)
8:01.28 (16.00)
14:01.09 (15)
7.81 (16.57)
3:08.48 (11.14)
9:38.74 (11.71)
2.19m (7.2.25) (16.07)
5.34m (17-6) (15.79)
7.68m (25-2.5) (16.07)
15.85m (52-0) (15.29)
18.57m (60-11) (15.29)
20.36m (66-9.75) (15.5)
5,462 (15)*
* (only contested beginning in 2004)
Last 4 Years Average (2005 - 2009)
6.67 (16)
21.05 (15.75)
46.70 (15.75)
1:49.03 (15.25)
4:01.12 (15.5)
7:56.80 (15)
13:53.52 (15)
7.81 (16)
3:07.88 (11)
9:35.61 (13)
2.18m (7-1.75) (15.75)
5.34m (17-6) (15)
7.72m (25-4) (16)
15.82m (51-11) (15.75)
18.56m (60-10) (15.25)
20.66m (67-9.5) (15.5)
5,479 (15.5)
Will this hold true?
There are 22 sub-4's this year. At least 4 will stay home because they have never taken more than 18!
What is the likelihood that some of the people who had qualified in the 1500m will drop it for another race? I know this is more common for the 5000m/10km double in outdoors, but is it common for indoors?
There are 22 sub-4s, but not all will declare. Oregon will not run 3 guys in the open mile if they want to ensure they win the DMR. Wheating likely to run the 800. Ulrey has choices (DM, 3k). Miller is going 3k, not Mile. So you never know.
Also, dont overlook how fast the 800 has been this year, as well. 1:48.60 is 16th! Last year only 3 guys ran 1:48.00 or better, this year 3 from Penn State alone have! and 2 from Oregon...and a total of like 9 have this year!
Will this happen again next year, I wonder. How often does the NCAA committee adjust the qualifying marks? And under what conditions? The number of people exceeding some of these marks are just astounding this year. I'm very curious what the results from Nationals will be this year.
Yes.
AUTO in mile next year will be 3:58.20.
Find another event if you're a miler!
Not really...you have no sense of history.
Crazy Fast Times wrote:
Seems like the times for indoor this year are the fastest ever. How many athletes do you think they will take in the mile, 3k and 5k?
wordsmith wrote:
Not really...you have no sense of history.
Crazy Fast Times wrote:Seems like the times for indoor this year are the fastest ever. How many athletes do you think they will take in the mile, 3k and 5k?
So you're saying back in the 1970's it was common to have 22 sub-4:00 milers indoors? I think you better check you're history.
I recall everyone talking about how great the Big 10 mile was back in 1985. You had Tim Hacker, Terry Brahm, James Murphy all around 4:01 and then Mike Patton, John Easker, Scott Jenkins at 4:03-4:04.
This years Big Ten list was better than that and I assume the same goes for national list at mile, 3000 meters.
Sorry guys. just made those numbers up
Now that this is on the front page, I'd like it to be known that this isn't made up. I am, after all, "statsguy"
all the fuqing way back in '09 we saw 3;55, 7;44, 13;18...2010 is slower.every year some poorly informed a$$clown states 'this is the fastest year ever'
Crazy Fast Times wrote:
Seems like the times for indoor this year are the fastest ever. How many athletes do you think they will take in the mile, 3k and 5k?
iron.curtain wrote:
all the fuqing way back in '09 we saw 3;55, 7;44, 13;18...2010 is slower.
every year some poorly informed a$$clown states 'this is the fastest year ever'
Crazy Fast Times wrote:Seems like the times for indoor this year are the fastest ever. How many athletes do you think they will take in the mile, 3k and 5k?
He's going by top depth, not top performance which indicates nothing in terms of trends.
Absolutely we are either in or approaching the very best era in distance running depth. I have all the high school top ten lists throughout the 1970's. The greatest 2 mile depth was between 1975-1977 and two years ago was very close to that.
As far as the NCAA, I would like to know all the years that had more indoor sub-4 miles and sub 8:00 3000's (or sub 8:40 two miles) than this year.