iaaf.org is repoting dathan ritzenheim will run the worlds best 10k in puerto rico on sunday, also deriba merga added to the field see my other post for some of the other elites expected to compete. great field.
iaaf.org is repoting dathan ritzenheim will run the worlds best 10k in puerto rico on sunday, also deriba merga added to the field see my other post for some of the other elites expected to compete. great field.
What is the american record for 10k road?
Mizuno wrote:
What is the american record for 10k road?
There's this thing called the Internet.
http://www.usatf.org/statistics/records/27:23 by mark nenow in new orleans in 1984.
The heat could be a big factor for him especially if he's been training mostly outdoors in Oregon.
I love his (or Alberto's) commitment to racing the best in the world, as often as possible. It makes it hard not to be a fan of Ritz when he's willing to put himself on the line against the top East Africans so often.
douglas burke wrote:
27:23 by mark nenow in new orleans in 1984.
USATF has 27:48. Isn't 27:23 his track PR?
I like seeing it too. It's interesting how Nike has two high-profile coaches in the Portland area, coaching some of the most high-profile distance runners in America, doing almost exactly the opposite thing - Al Sal and Jerry Shumacher. I've been a fan of Jerry's for a while - I like his approach to training, and it is obviously producing some good runners. But damn I would like to see his guys race more often.
i got the nenow 27:23 at the crescent city classic in 1984 from iaaf.org all time list's, nenow's track 10k is 27:20.
Re: Schumacher's guys racing - it seems to vary athlete to athlete.
I read that Solinsky was out of the group much of the winter, back in Wisconsin for his wedding, and was joking that he was out of shape when he got back to Oregon. But then he ran 3:55, and he's the only one competing at the US indoor championships.
The longer-distance guys, Bairu, Nelson, and Rohatinsky, all ran half-marathons in January. Nelson apparently didn't bounce back as quickly as Shalane did - maybe he would've done XC Nats and World XC (which Bairu is doing).
Why we see/hear nothing at all from Tegenkamp and Jager, I don't know. What about Stuart Eagon, is he still with that group? Is Dan Lincoln making progress? Questions abound.
This is the hard prep race he needed before world cross. It worries me a little that it is on the road, given his fragility in previous Feb/March road races, but you have to love Ritz for competing against the best when he's right. Most American elites will go outside the country (Puerto Rico counts, right?) only in the summer, if then. This contrasts favorably with so many of our previous elites, Culpepper being the biggest offender but even Hall fits in here as well, because he doesn't race big races outside of his marathons.
Officially, Puerto Rico is "not part of United States, but belongs to the United States."
ritz has always taken on the best competition on the same day ryan hall ran his american record half marathon of 59:43, ritz ran a cross country race finishing 6th behind k. bekele, euliud kipchoge and others of the highest caliber.
Here comes an injury, just in time for World Cross!
Adam R. wrote:
Mizuno wrote:What is the american record for 10k road?
There's this thing called the Internet.
http://www.usatf.org/statistics/records/
Actually, he IS using the internet, dumbass.
edumacator wrote:
douglas burke wrote:27:23 by mark nenow in new orleans in 1984.
USATF has 27:48. Isn't 27:23 his track PR?
Nenow ran 27:22 at the Crescent City Classic 10K in New Orleans in 1984. Why doesn't the USATF recognize that as the U.S. road record? I thought they did until I looked at the link on the USATF webpage.
the IAAF article is here
Yeah I just looked at USATF, but Douglas is definitely right, IAAF has the Crescent City time, and unless they've changed something about the course in New Orleans, I think it would be record eligible. Anybody know anything more?
Employee #1 wrote:
the IAAF article is here
http://www.iaaf.org/LRR10/news/newsid=55659.html
Love this quote - "He also has plenty of leg speed, clocking a 12:56 for 5000m last fall." About freakin' time someone gave Ritz his due credit. Someone here has been saying Ritz had serious leg speed years before he ran that 12:56. I can't remember who that was.
someone please clarify wrote:
edumacator wrote:USATF has 27:48. Isn't 27:23 his track PR?
Nenow ran 27:22 at the Crescent City Classic 10K in New Orleans in 1984. Why doesn't the USATF recognize that as the U.S. road record? I thought they did until I looked at the link on the USATF webpage.
Crescent City is point to point, so even though it is perfectly flat (there are no hills to go up or down in New Orleans) it isn't recognized as a record because the start and finish are more then 30% the distance of the race apart from each other. It is the same reason times from the New York City marathon are considered aided even though the race is a net uphill. Its a fairly dumb rule but I suppose someone ran a crazy fast time on a flat course with a great tail wind and some AAU rules junkie got a hard-on to make sure it wouldn't be recognized and so it remains today.