'07 WC 10k bronze medalist and 10 mile jr WR holder Martin Mathathi ran 25:55 for 9.8 km in the Meigi Ekiden yesterday. Point-to-point course, but only 1 m elevation loss. Flat conversion to 10k yields 26:27 vs. Kogo's road 10k WR of 27:01. Smokin'. A new stage record, needless to stay.
Did he have a tailwind or someone to draft off of? Either way, smokin' indeed.
That is an absurd time.
road courses are not known for accuracy, but even with some modest error it was very fast. I would like to know the splits for the other runners -- if everyone was faster than teammates on other legs then I think that there is evidence that it was short. If the next best was 29:00 then it was super+.
26mi235 wrote:
road courses are not known for accuracy, but even with some modest error it was very fast. I would like to know the splits for the other runners -- if everyone was faster than teammates on other legs then I think that there is evidence that it was short. If the next best was 29:00 then it was super+.
You apparently don't know the Japanese. If the leg was set at 9.8k, it was 9.8k on the dot.
Boy Wonder wrote:
26mi235 wrote:road courses are not known for accuracy, but even with some modest error it was very fast. I would like to know the splits for the other runners -- if everyone was faster than teammates on other legs then I think that there is evidence that it was short. If the next best was 29:00 then it was super+.
You apparently don't know the Japanese. If the leg was set at 9.8k, it was 9.8k on the dot.
+1
we need a link
nothing on web yet i coud find or on iaaf
as you said, that's 26'27 for 10k & road runs invariably some secs slower than track ( usually due to no 400 splits to gauge performance )
unless he had a following tsunami, this is wr territory for track 10k !!!
I think the distance was probably accurate, but it was a somewhat windy day so Mathathi may have had some tailwind advantage. He was also chasing on his stage, not leading, so there may be some advantage there as well.
Still, he had the old stage record of 26:19 too, set in '07. Since then he has gotten a WC 10000 m medal, broken 27 on the track and most recently broken 45 for 10 miles, so it doesn't seem completely impossible.
The next fastest guy, Samuel Ndungu, ran 26:24, also pretty smokin'. 3rd and 4th on the stage were in the 27:20's.
Complete results:
Why didn't they have him run 200 more meters so he could set a world record. that would have been cool. when he got to the end of his stage say hey man go run 17 seconds that way and then come back. that would have been 200 meters or so and they could have counted that for the world record. bekele's time may have been beat too. oh my!
nobody has asked this wrote:
Why didn't they have him run 200 more meters so he could set a world record. that would have been cool. when he got to the end of his stage say hey man go run 17 seconds that way and then come back. that would have been 200 meters or so and they could have counted that for the world record. bekele's time may have been beat too. oh my!
Why the hell would a relay leg count as a relay leg? Think before you post, moron.
It would have to be a course that looped back on itself so that it satisfied the elevation change and Start/Finish distance requirements (as a percentage of total distance).
26er
can't count - that 9.8k couda been overall 1% downhill
i'll try & dig up the formula...
this is formula for smooth uphill/downhill
with distance = d, elevation or decline = h, actual time = T :
adjusted time = (d^2 * T) / ( d^2 - (2ghT))
marhathi moter rola wrote:
nobody has asked this wrote:Why didn't they have him run 200 more meters so he could set a world record. that would have been cool. when he got to the end of his stage say hey man go run 17 seconds that way and then come back. that would have been 200 meters or so and they could have counted that for the world record. bekele's time may have been beat too. oh my!
Why the hell would a relay leg count as a relay leg? Think before you post, moron.
LMAO, I don't know if this was intended but it is hilarious.
Assuming that it is cool to post cool running stuff here;
http://www.coolrunning.com/engine/3/3_1/kenya-sweeps-chiba-ekiden.shtml
I posted the wrong stuff. My apologies.
ventolin^2 wrote:
we need a link
nothing on web yet i coud find or on iaaf
as you said, that's 26'27 for 10k & road runs invariably some secs slower than track ( usually due to no 400 splits to gauge performance )
unless he had a following tsunami, this is wr territory for track 10k !!!
But flat, straight road course should be no slower than a track. Turns slow people down.
on a 400m track going at speeds of middle distance runners, the slowing on the curves is fractional compared to the straights & certainly dwarfed by ability to gauge your pace optimally against a stadium clock every 400m
fractional? both 1/100 and 999999/1000000 are fractions.. and what's this slowing on the straights that you're comparing to?