Cubic zirconium is virtually indistingushable from diamond and costs so much less. Diamonds are so overpriced at it is - why expect spouse or mate to waste your savings on artificially inflated commodity? is a sham
Cubic zirconium is virtually indistingushable from diamond and costs so much less. Diamonds are so overpriced at it is - why expect spouse or mate to waste your savings on artificially inflated commodity? is a sham
Dr. Phil wrote:
Cubic zirconium is virtually indistingushable from diamond and costs so much less. Diamonds are so overpriced at it is - why expect spouse or mate to waste your savings on artificially inflated commodity? is a sham
...AND a Cubic Zirconium is made in a lab by well paid scientists instead of dug up by slaves, and the profits used to fund wars and ethnic cleansing in Africa. But I think women like the idea behind the diamond more than the diamond itself. It is supposed to show that you think so highly of them you are willing to invest a good portion of your net worth into a tiny rock for them...
If I ever get married we are getting our bands tattooed on.
Trailer park thinking returns to letsrun. If you can't afford diamonds don't buy them; that goes for almost anything. It is beyond tacky to try and degrade something because you cannot afford that item. Trailer park reaction.
Because commercials tell married guys that if they buy their wives a diamond they have a pretty good chance at getting laid.
"Diamond Illusions, because she will never know the difference"
You can make diamonds in a lab toohttp://www.apollodiamond.com/
its the truth wrote:
Dr. Phil wrote:Cubic zirconium is virtually indistingushable from diamond and costs so much less. Diamonds are so overpriced at it is - why expect spouse or mate to waste your savings on artificially inflated commodity? is a sham
...AND a Cubic Zirconium is made in a lab by well paid scientists instead of dug up by slaves, and the profits used to fund wars and ethnic cleansing in Africa. But I think women like the idea behind the diamond more than the diamond itself. It is supposed to show that you think so highly of them you are willing to invest a good portion of your net worth into a tiny rock for them...
If I ever get married we are getting our bands tattooed on.
a diamond ring is a completely useless and irrational expense that American society has come to accept as necessary to symbolize marriage. I bought my fiancee a diamond ring, but I searched and bargained my ass off for it. The only practical use for diamonds is with cutting tools and optics. Quite frankly I do not find them attractive to the eye. Women only do because its been imprinted in them. My European family does not have diamond wedding bands because it is not a huge selling point there.
No Name wrote:
Trailer park thinking returns to letsrun. If you can't afford diamonds don't buy them; that goes for almost anything. It is beyond tacky to try and degrade something because you cannot afford that item. Trailer park reaction.
And you bring ignorant thinking into the entire world. There is no shame in trailer park living, you lose your job and may find yourself there, so I'd suggest watching the things you say, but like you care, its an anonymous forum, right?
No Name wrote:
Trailer park thinking returns to letsrun. If you can't afford diamonds don't buy them; that goes for almost anything. It is beyond tacky to try and degrade something because you cannot afford that item. Trailer park reaction.
Almost anyone can afford crocs, Uggs, or a Britney Spears CD. Most people disparage them too.
It is pretty clear that diamonds have little-to-no investment value, buying them supports unsavory labor practices and the diamond cartel, and the buyer is just another fool manipulated by marketing.
4runner - tried deductive reasoning for a change? It might make you appear to be more intelligent.
No Name wrote:
4runner - tried deductive reasoning for a change? It might make you appear to be more intelligent.
Exactly what is to be deduced here?
It isn't that hard really... IF you are a woman who thinks this practice is stupid, tell your fiance and maybe he will put the money to better use.
If you are a guy who is mad that his girlfriend thinks this is something that needs to be done, you better rethink that proposal b/c that is a huge warning sign of financial problems in your future.
If you are a guy that respects this custom, and is fine shelling out the cash, good for you.
I bought my wife way too many diamonds during our first few years of marriage. I had the money to do it, but it is stupid. Looking back, I should have just put that in our daughter's trust. My wife has a hell of a left ring finger when we go out at night, though.
No Name - I am not trailer park trash and I CAN afford the real thing. But, just because I can afford $5,000 or $10,000 for a big diamond - does that mean I should spend that money? Instead, I can save $1,000s on something which is again indistinguishable from real thing and maybe donate what I saved to a charitable organization.
Why should your girlfriend/wife be with you when there are alternatives out there?
Why buy a BMW when you could drive a Fiat?
No Name wrote:
Trailer park thinking returns to letsrun. If you can't afford diamonds don't buy them; that goes for almost anything. It is beyond tacky to try and degrade something because you cannot afford that item. Trailer park reaction.
you haven't addressed the question.
is your assertion that one should spend more on a diamond because it is a tradition? is that a good enough reason to spend $5-10k (or more) on an engagement ring if one can spend much less on something that is exactly the same for all purposes?
btw, i spent something very close to the high end of that range on one, so I'm not saying nobody should buy diamonds. however, the op asked a good question, and you did not provide a reasonable answer.
Well what was YOUR reason for spending "something very close to the high end of that range on one?"
Rightly or wrongly, the diamond ring has become a symbol of commitment. Sure, you can blame it on marketing, but marketing is the reason we use toothpaste, deordorant, and thousands of other products.
I smend about $800 on a very small engagement ring, and my wife loved it. She didn't give a rats ass about the ring itself, she just wanted me to propose. She actually told me not to spend much on it, for the same reasons that Dr. Phil has been posting.
That being said, I did get a real diamond.
I felt pressure to conform to the tradition. i don't think that's a good reason, though. i would never buy something like that for myself (i.e., something more expensive than a perfectly good alternative that is indistinguishable from the real deal).
obviously tradition is the reason we all do it...i think. there is no use for a diamond on jewelry other than showing it off. well, unless you go broke later and need to start pawning things off.
From the dawn of time women have liked, enjoyed, and sought out shiney bobbles, trinkets, jewels and such. It's hardwired into them, it's part of their DNA.
Any woman that says she doesnt want a big shiney diamond ring is a liar. It's like a man saying he doesn't like women with juicy lips, a nice rack, and great @ss.