what are the appearance fees for 2:12-2:14 American marathoners?

lol maybe 100 dollars, and thats being generous

Entry fee and a hotel room.

too tough for you wrote:

lol maybe 100 dollars, and thats being generous

In the right situation it can be a bit better then that but for the most part this isn't to far off being true. You can eat at a 2:13/2:14 guy, but not much more. 2:12 is a bit better and if you do it with consistency, ie Gilmore a few years back, you can pick up a bit more. Also if you run 2:12 in the right place the prize money can be pretty good.

one of them wrote:

too tough for you wrote:

lol maybe 100 dollars, and thats being generous

In the right situation it can be a bit better then that but for the most part this isn't to far off being true. You can eat at a 2:13/2:14 guy, but not much more. 2:12 is a bit better and if you do it with consistency, ie Gilmore a few years back, you can pick up a bit more. Also if you run 2:12 in the right place the prize money can be pretty good.

Nice to see you still posting here Nate.

Nothing unless you have a good shoe deal.

Nike does nothing for an athlete at this level.

Saucony has a few bucks.

Brooks has the most but only if you are with Hansons.

can 'one of them' enlighten us on appearance fees?

how fast for an American to get some bucks at a major?

Boston will give you 3-5 grand if they don't have any big name Americans otherwise, nothing.

New York will give you 5-7 grand.

Chicago will not give you anything and maybe not even a room.

A few others will give you between 1-2 grand.

Obviously your money will come from appearance money and your sponsor.

i guess the simple solution is to run faster than 2:12

How much did Ritz get to run the NYC marathon where he was just a 2:14 marathon runner? Or how about at London after he was only a 2:12 marathon runner?

1. Dathan was not a 2:14 marathon going into New York (when appearance money was given out). Mary was betting on potential.

2. Going into London he had already been second in the trials and top 10 in the Olympic Games.

I received an envelope with 10 Benjaminz when I arrived at the 2004 Nagano Marathon, PLUS a pep rally at the Nagano Girls High School. I was rather pleased.

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I received an envelope with 10 Benjaminz when I arrived at the 2004 Nagano Marathon,

what was your PR?

And why did you get into the totally over-saturated "energy drink" market?

lookingforward wrote:

can 'one of them' enlighten us on appearance fees?

how fast for an American to get some bucks at a major?

You have to judge this based on what you, the potential entrant adds to the field. How much extra coverage is the race going to receive because you're in the field? Todd Williams never did better than 2:11, but I'd still give him more if he were in my field because of his track credentials and his name recognition in the running community.

I'd agree with the above figures that number in the few thousand dollars. One exception might be if you're a 2:12 British guy running London, in which case you'd garner some measure of press. But, apart from that, anything they give is just them being nice.

So what would a successful young guy just off the collegiate scene make for a debut? Let's say sub 13:30/28:00 type guy.

If you're a 2:12 or 2:13 guy and want to make some money, I wouldn't bet on appearance fees. Most races will pay for airfare and hotel, maybe a food allowance, but appearance fee is for those athletes that make the race money just by showing up. This is reserved for superstars of the marathon, or superstars of the track with marathon potential.

The money for these kind of athletes is in prize money, and you have to pick the marathons right. Like this last weeks CIM where the winner got 10,000 for 2:13. If you can do that twice a year, and work maybe 15-20 hours a week, life would be pretty good. There is also a lot of extra money in Olympic years, some of the bigger marathons will give bonuses for trials qualifiers, and American only prize money. I've known guys to make 2500 or so for a 2:18. Also, there is a lot of money (I assume you already know this) in the USA Champs series on the road for 10k 15k, 20k, half marathon, and 25k. Presumably if you're a 2:12 guy you could make some good money at these races as well.

Do Not worry about appearance fees unless you are good enough that you add to the race even if you do not finish it. This means that your name means something. Other wise the only reason why you would get some sort of fee is to run your PR 2:12-14 and make the race look better and faster for the following year. To get this most likely small fee however you would have to actually finish the marathon in which case you are better off looking for a marathon where 2:12-14 will get you a few grand in prize money and not worry so much about the appearance fee.

Even the top guys (Hall et. al) are required to finish to get their Full $$, otherwise they get portions of their fees (still good) for passing certain check points. This is because of all the Publicity a guy like Hall can give a marathon even if he were to have a sub par race like in NYC this year.

adaquate will hunting wrote:

Even the top guys (Hall et. al) are required to finish to get their Full $$, otherwise they get portions of their fees (still good) for passing certain check points. This is because of all the Publicity a guy like Hall can give a marathon even if he were to have a sub par race like in NYC this year.

Standard is a 100% reduction if they fail to start, 50% reduction if they fail to finish, and smaller reductions if their final time doesn't meet a certain standard (meaning if Hall runs 2:19 at New York, he won't receive 100% of his fee).

all the free bagles and powerbars you can eat in the refreshment tent after the race.

you get a hotel room and airfare maybe. If you are in running for the money as a marathoner you will be sorely disappointed. f*** you anyway