Crazy weekend for NCAA XC? RANK 'EM

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  • What a weekend
    10 years ago 10/04/2009 1:57pm CDT
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    This weekend a bunch of teams raced and there was a bunch of upsets and the rankings should be flipped around a lot. how does everybody rank 'em? here is how i rank them:
    1. Stanford (looked strong at first meet and teams in front of them lost)
    2. Northern Arizona
    3. Alabama
    4. Oklahoma State
    5. Colorado
    6. Portland
    7. Oregon
    8. William and Mary
    9. BYU
    10. Syracuse
    11. Georgetown
    12. Indiana
    13. Washington
    14. Iona
    15. Virginia
  • Dave Wottle
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    10 years ago 10/04/2009 2:06pm CDT
    re: What a weekend
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    What a weekend wrote:

    This weekend a bunch of teams raced and there was a bunch of upsets and the rankings should be flipped around a lot. how does everybody rank 'em? here is how i rank them:
    1. Stanford (looked strong at first meet and teams in front of them lost)
    2. Northern Arizona
    3. Alabama
    4. Oklahoma State
    5. Colorado
    6. Portland
    7. Oregon
    8. William and Mary
    9. BYU
    10. Syracuse
    11. Georgetown
    12. Indiana
    13. Washington
    14. Iona
    15. Virginia

    I think your jumping the gun by dropping oklahoma st and oregon down so far after one meet where neither was at full strength. I do agree with Stanford number 1 though.
    My top 5:
    1.Stanford
    2.Oregon
    3.Ok. St.
    4.NAU
    5.Bama
    3.
  • Dtooooooo!!!!
    10 years ago 10/04/2009 2:07pm CDT
    re: What a weekend
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    1) Adams State
    2) Stanford
    3) Northern Arizona
    4) Alabama
    5) OSU
    6) Colorado
    7) Portland
    8) Oregon
    9) W and M
    10) BYU

    There, fixed it for you.
  • music is happiness
    10 years ago 10/04/2009 2:22pm CDT
    re: Dave Wottle
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    Dave Wottle wrote:

    I think your jumping the gun by dropping oklahoma st and oregon down so far after one meet where neither was at full strength.

    Oregon WAS at full strength (Puskedra, Centro, both Mercados, Acosta, Klotz, McNamara all ran). Drop them down!
  • D-one
    10 years ago 10/04/2009 2:56pm CDT
    re: Dtooooooo!!!!
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    Dtooooooo!!!! wrote:

    1) Adams State
    2) Stanford
    3) Northern Arizona
    4) Alabama
    5) OSU
    6) Colorado
    7) Portland
    8) Oregon
    9) W and M
    10) BYU

    There, fixed it for you.

    Adams State was third at OSU... that translates to #1 in the country?
  • Dtooooooo!!!!
    10 years ago 10/04/2009 3:01pm CDT
    re: D-one
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    It was in fun in response to the Adams State thread.
  • Ranker
    10 years ago 10/04/2009 3:04pm CDT
    re: D-one
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    Adams State didn't have their best day at OSU. I would put them 3rd behind NAU and OSU if i was including them... but heres my D1 rankings..

    1.NAU
    2.OSU
    3.Stanford
    4.William and Mary
    5.Alabamma
    6.Colorado
    7.BYU
    8.Oregon
    9.Syracuse
    10.Portland

    Add Mcneil into to NAU and they look unbeatable. But they are vunerable that their gap from 5-6 is big. OSU have more depth and could still challenge but Girma and Chirchir are big doubts in my mind. Stanford look good but haven't really been tested on a legit course against good teams. William and Mary look great, a real dark horse. Bama and BYU easily handled Oregon, Colorado look good but can they all stay healthy. Syracuse impressed but can they last the season? Portland will be 7-10th at nationals, Connor knows what he's doing.
  • coachkritter
    10 years ago 10/04/2009 3:18pm CDT
    re: D-one
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    Oregon, Alabama, BYU, and Portland basically all tied at Dellinger, so I wouldn't make any big changes in rankings. Do think that Stanford deserves #1 right now. Washington, Indiana, Villanova, and Syracuse all deserve to be ranked. Drop down Tulsa, Wisconsin, Auburn(out).

    Women- Top stays about the same.with Villanova,Texas Tech, and Duke moving up.
    Drop down Georgetown, Illinois, Michigan, and N.Az.
  • Dave Wottle
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    10 years ago 10/04/2009 3:28pm CDT
    re: music is happiness
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    music is happiness wrote:

    Dave Wottle wrote:

    I think your jumping the gun by dropping oklahoma st and oregon down so far after one meet where neither was at full strength.

    Oregon WAS at full strength (Puskedra, Centro, both Mercados, Acosta, Klotz, McNamara all ran). Drop them down!


    Notice i didnt say "oregon did not run all their guys." I said they werent at full strength because I believe they will run much much better when it counts
  • aneducatedguess
    10 years ago 10/04/2009 5:48pm CDT
    re: Dave Wottle
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    Heres a fun take and what everyone did.

    1. Stanford - Won Stanford Invite
    2. Northern Arizona - Won Jamboree
    3. Ok State - 4th at Jamboree w/o top 2
    4. Colorado - Won Rocky Mountain
    5. Alabama - Won Dillinger
    6. BYU - 2nd at Dillinger
    7. W&M - 2nd at Jamboree
    8. UVA - Won G.M. Invite
    9. Oregon - 3rd at Dillinger
    10. Indiana - Won Paul Short
    11. Syracuse - Won Wisco Adidas Invite
    12. Washington - Won ND Invite
    13. Iona - 2nd at Paul Short
    14. G-Town - 2nd at Wisco Adidas Invite
    15. Wisco 3rd at Wisco Adidas Invite
    16. Washington - Won at Notre Dame
    17. Iowa State - Idle - Won Griak
    18. Providence - 2nd at Notre Dame
    19. Portland - 4th at Dillinger
    20. Butler - 3rd at ND (tied)
    21. New Mexico - 3rd at ND (tied)
    22. Arkansas - 4th at Wisco Adidas Invite
    23. Arizona State - 5th at ND (only 7 points behind NM/Butler)
    24. Oklahoma - Idle - 2nd at Griak
    25. Duke - Idle - 3rd at Griak
    26. Villanova - 5th at Dillinger
    27. Minnesota - Idle 4th at Griak
    28. Iowa - 5th at Wisco Adidas Invite (2 points behind Arkansas
    29. Cal Poly - 6th at Dillinger
    30. Florida State 6th at Notre Dame

    Dropped out #11 Tulsa, #20 Auburn, #23 Michigan, #28 ND
  • Fall Seasonal Juggernaut
    10 years ago 10/04/2009 5:56pm CDT
    re: aneducatedguess
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    Washington at 12 AND 16? They really ought to combine those teams, then they'd really be tough. Or maybe you mean the UW women would be the 16th-best men's team.
  • uhh
    10 years ago 10/04/2009 6:00pm CDT
    re: aneducatedguess
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    you have washington ranked twice
  • aneducatedguess
    10 years ago 10/04/2009 6:01pm CDT
    re: Fall Seasonal Juggernaut
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    ahh, my fault! also the Washington women are very good. I wont repost it, but I would put Washington at #12 then look at add in one more team on the bottom.
  • girl power
    10 years ago 10/04/2009 6:04pm CDT
    re: What a weekend
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    what about on the women's side?
  • Ludacris
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    10 years ago 10/04/2009 6:10pm CDT
    re: aneducatedguess
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    Not sure how you can drop Portland down 10 spots behind Oregon when they were two points behind the Ducks on their home course.
  • fetus
    10 years ago 10/04/2009 6:24pm CDT
    re: Ludacris
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    ok state
    nau
    stanford
    alabama
    colorado
    oregon
  • jekyllman
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    10 years ago 10/04/2009 6:42pm CDT
    re: fetus
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    1. Stanford
    2. Oklahoma St.
    3. Alabama
    4. NAU
    5. Colorado
    6. BYU
    7. Oregon
    8. Portland
    9. Virginia
    10. William & Mary
  • Judy Liz
    10 years ago 10/04/2009 6:56pm CDT
    re: girl power
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    High school girl Marielle Hall 21:09 6k @Paul Short college open div.
    Great run.
  • kprunner
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    10 years ago 10/04/2009 7:05pm CDT
    re: Judy Liz
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    question

    someone said oregon was at full strength.

    I heard that Michael Maag of princeton transfered to oregon. any word on that?
    cause he would be a top 5 guy at oregon I would say.
  • Dee One
    10 years ago 10/04/2009 7:15pm CDT
    re: Dave Wottle
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    Dave Wottle wrote:[/b

    I think your jumping the gun by dropping oklahoma st and oregon down so far after one meet where neither was at full strength. I do agree with Stanford number 1 though.
    My top 5:
    1.Stanford
    2.Oregon
    3.Ok. St.
    4.NAU
    5.Bama
    3.

    You do understand the difference between RANKINGS and NCAA predictions? We are talking about rankings here. Cross country never gets ranked correctly because so many rankers try to guess what runners were held out, if a team ran all out or not, etc. You should not be guessing when it comes to rankings or trying to see in the future. How do we know German is really going to run later in the year. Most likely he will, yesterday he didn't. Their team is not the 2nd best team in the country without him. Please rankers, rank the teams on how they perform, not how you expect them to perform. Once they run their full team the rankings will show it.