No Meats No Sweets Diet

its lacking meat. Eat more meat.

You will be healthy, lose weight, and will be faster; just make sure you get enough protein, complex carbs, fruits and vegetables.

there's probably corn syrup in your italian dressing champ.

i'd say you're still missing protein. and you didn't tell us what's in your salad.

Its 50% good.

Change that to a No Sweets deal.

Better yet is no sugar/no white flour...try to avoid as much stuff that you get out of a box.

also lay off the rice/rolls

you dont need both in one meal

Not eating meat is going to do nothing to make you leaner and is only going to make you angry deep down.

The vegs I know are sick/injured all the time. I would never even think about saying that it could be the meatless diet. But yet I always think it to myself.

I know of 4 sub 14:00 minute guys that are vegetarians. They are thinner and more muscular. Meat eating is overrated. Protein can be find in a fast array of other foods (beans, peanut butter, milk) that don't aren't filled with omega 6 fat and toxins.

soon to be lean wrote:

Ok, so I am 148 pounds. 2 Days ago I was 150 pounds. 2 Days ago I also went on the no meats no sweets diet.

I do not eat any sweets/deserts/sugary cereals.

I do not eat red meat or chicken. (Will eat fish but have not yet)

Having been getting my protein from milk.

A meal consists of....

large bowl of salad with italian dressing

whole wheat roll

two glasses of 2% milk

rice

(Sometimes substitute salad with 2 vegetables...broccoli/green beans

I take a multi vitamin and omega 3 daily

I already feel leaner and think I would be a machine at 140 pounds. I'm about to run my first 8k which is why I am being more weight consious.

How is this diet? Is it lacking anything essential?

Add meat (lots). Dump or cut down on the bread. Dump the milk. Dump or cut down on the rice.

fajangles wrote:

I know of 4 sub 14:00 minute guys that are vegetarians. They are thinner and more muscular. Meat eating is overrated. Protein can be find in a fast array of other foods (beans, peanut butter, milk) that don't aren't filled with omega 6 fat and toxins.

True, but B-Vitamins cannot.

Just as a general question to those in this thread: is the loss of 4 pounds or whatever really worth the cutting out of all desserts and breads?

Also, when you cut out grains substantially, how do you get enough calories if you're running 70mpw?

Let me be the 4th to say to eat meat.

And again, it won't make you bulky, fat, or less lean.

fajangles wrote:

I know of 4 sub 14:00 minute guys that are vegetarians. They are thinner and more muscular. Meat eating is overrated. Protein can be find in a fast array of other foods (beans, peanut butter, milk) that don't aren't filled with omega 6 fat and toxins.

Uh huh. They are scarfing down a burger and steak at least once every few months and then don't say anything about it.

If your worried about unhealthy side effects of meat, then cut out beef and steak and things off that variety.

Lena chicken, pork and fish can all be very healthy, there's nothing wrong with eating these with regularity.

Don't listen to the anti-meat clowns. Been a vegetarian for nine years. Here's the scoop with the meat:

If you eat a healthy diet with moderate amounts of meat, it will maximize performance. If you eat a healthy vegetarian diet, it will maximize performance. The key? Healthy diets maximize performance. Meat is neither a necessity nor a hindrance.

The key is HEALTH and nutritional quality, not the presence or absence of meat. Lots of complex carbs, fruits and veggies, beans, enough soy, meat and/or dairy to get your RDI of protein, the other good stuff mentioned previously, and you're solid.

Do what works for your body. If what you are doing is working, other suggestions don't really matter.

And, to the earlier poster who said vegetarians cheat and eat meat every now and then-- sorry to burst your bubble, but most don't. Including those who have much faster times than you (and me too, by a long shot).

What happens to excess glucose in the body if it isn't stored as glycogen? It's stored as fat. Doesn't matter if it's from sugar or bread. The insulin spike from white bread is still a high spike compared to say broccoli. Increased insulin levels make your body store more fat.

Granted, eliminating sweets is a great idea....replacing meat with bread is not.

What about eggs? You can get all the protein you need from eggs and milk....but the problem with milk is intolerance. Most people, about 75%, are not able to digest the sugars in milk properly.

Why elimate red meat? Make the better choice and eliminate GRAIN fed beef. Only consume GRASS fed LEAN beef. I could go into why..but I want you to do your own homework.

Eat a natural diet. If you're going to consume mass quantities of carbs then this limits you to: fruit, rice, oats, potatoes, beans, etc...stuff you could basically grow yourself if you really really had to. I don't think they make a bread tree....:) Eat food that is processed as little as possible.

Alan

for those of you who say no meat, rice, processed carbs, or sweets... what do you eat?

I couldn't imagine getting enough carbs without pasta, rice, and bread. Do you really just eat fruits and veggies? How on earth do you get enough calories?

i'm eating a cinnamon raisin bagel with cream cheese.

In May of this year I decided to switch my diet to 80% raw foods and fish. Since May I have been training 100-120mpw and I get stronger everyday. I owe my quick recovery and ability to train at this level to my consistent diet. After 2 weeks on the diet I went from 155lbs to 144lbs and I have been steady at 144 ever since. For reference I am 6 foot 3. One month ago I eliminated fish from my diet after reading the book Skinny Bastard (great book!) and that has improved my output and recovery even more. Another marathoner in town adopted this same diet and has dropped to his optimum marathoning weight.

What I eat is simple:

Breakfast: 60 ounces of smoothie- oj, pineapple, strawberry, mango and soy protein

9am-Raw Bar--Lara Bar, two if still hungry

Green tea all morning

10am-another raw bar

noon-32 ounce smoothie with soy protein-all fruit

2-3 bananas

cashews, almonds, dried figs

1 or two raw lara bars

green tea all afternoon

After run 50 ounce smoothie with pineapple, oj, strawberry, mango and soy protein

Dinner: First cooked food of day- whole wheat pasta, whole wheat bread, lots of veggies- mushrooms, broccoli, carrots, zuchini, asparagus, green beans, cucumbers, etc.

This diet has been essential for my training and recovery. Everyone should read Skinny Bastard and at the end of the book you will be suprised how many bad ass athletes are vegan, including Carl Lewis who adopted this lifestyle and then had his best year ever on the track!

Happy training!

You're making this WAY to complicated. Feast on 1000 grams of protein powder per day.

In one week you will weigh 230 pounds and run an 8K like a turbo charged bowling ball.