So, under maximum wind, she is faster than Jones, whose 10.65 (+1.1w) = 10.60 (+2.0w).
FloJo's 10.49 (0.0w) was likely run with a faulty anemometer, with the wind estimated to be between +5.0 and +7.0.
Using an average of +6.0 for her probable wind, 10.49 (+6.0w) = 10.68 (+2.0w)
Clearly, Jeter's normalized 10.56 beats Jones' 10.60, which beats FloJo's 10.68
The three best ever, normalized to +2.0m/s wind
Jeter 10.56
Jones 10.60
FloJo 10.68
+6.0 is insane, where have you seen that estimate for the wind?
Idiot, what about FloJo's 10.61 and 10.62? Still Jeter is fastest, but FloJo is second.
Nick Linthorne, who studied this thoroughly, estimates it at +5.5.
+6.0 might me a stretch but not by much
I love the vid of that 10.49.
After finishing, and other competitors are huggin her, Flojo's hair is blowing in her face like she's on a sailboat on a windy day. 0.0 m/s my ass.
This is where I got the +6.0 m/s estimate:
Linthorne, Nick (March 2003). "Wind Assistance". Brunel University.
It is available to view online at
http://www.webcitation.org/5jWCChh5E
where based on times, the wind is estimated at between +5.0 and +7.0
I thought an estimate of +6.0 based on this was fair. I know, it's a hurricane.
You're wrong about me being an idiot, but you're quite right about my forgetting about the 10.61 and 10.62
FloJo's 10.61 (+1.2w) normalizes to 10.57 (+2.0w) and 10.62 (+1.0w) also normalizes to 10.57 (+2.0w)
So there you have it: Carmelita, Florence, Marion.
By the way, I'm doing this by calculating the effect of added tailwind, and not by adding a simulated headwind. As you may know, the effects of an equal tailwind and headwind are not equal.
Jeter still has the fastest time normalized to +2.0w
Didn't Carl Lewis run 9.78 on the same day just minutes earlier with a +5.2?
"If this is a world record and the wind gauge holds up, it's greater than Ben Johnson's world record in the 100m last year."
Says it all, doesn't it?
Yes, freal, that statement was, looking back, a classic.
All is lost. There is no meaning anymore.
Broken, sad.
Lonely.
Help me...
Track is SUPER FAST.
The Normalizer wrote:
The three best ever, normalized to +2.0m/s wind
Basic is normally expressed and compared at nil wind 0.0m/s.
I think she is juiced!
she looks stacked
One can normalize to whatever level one wishes.
I chose 2.0 because it gives an idea of the best time each athlete could possibly have achieved within the legal parameters of competition, other than doping.
The choice of where to normalize is arbitrary, and 2.0 is more exciting than 0.0
However, since wind effects are non-linear, I would not be surprised to see a small change in the outcome of whose time is the fastest if normalized to 0.0, and especially to -2.0
Since competitive running is all about the BEST time, 2.0 is more interesting to use than 0.0.
Note also that Indy is at enough elevation to provide slight assistance (0.01 or 0.02 range).
Definitely wind-aided. Of the 11 that made the next rounds, the times were, on average a tenth or more slower and the winds were +1.2 or more, and the top runners would have to go harder. It was a 'PR' for almost all of those runners and for many or most it stayed their lifetime 'PR'.
Norm,
Does your prefered normalization to +2.0m/s to get a best possible time also correct reaction time to 0.10?
WiT
I still wouldn't put Jeter in front of Flojo. She ran 21.33. Jeter can't touch that. If they were in the same race, Flojo would destroy her. I think the wind comparison is faulty based off of common sense.
The Normalizer wrote:
You're wrong about me being an idiot, but you're quite right about my forgetting about the 10.61 and 10.62
FloJo's 10.61 (+1.2w) normalizes to 10.57 (+2.0w) and 10.62 (+1.0w) also normalizes to 10.57 (+2.0w)
So there you have it: Carmelita, Florence, Marion.
By the way, I'm doing this by calculating the effect of added tailwind, and not by adding a simulated headwind. As you may know, the effects of an equal tailwind and headwind are not equal.
Jeter still has the fastest time normalized to +2.0w
and all of them are drug users.
No, I didn't "normalize" to a perfect legal start, because that is something that is entirely in the control of each individual competitor in every race they run.
That would be like normalizing any 10m segment to the best time ever achieved for that segment, or indeed, normalizing to a particular time for the entire race.
Which isn't "normalizing" at all--it's just changing the results.
I agree that FloJo was still faster than Jeter, based on her 200 time, and based on the +6.0 estimate I used for her 100 wind, which could in fact have been lower.
This era in women's sprinting is the same as the Gatlin-Greene-Montgomery era in men's sprinting, with FloJo being the equivalent of Ben Johnson.
Ben runs a great doped time, and anybody who follows soon thereafter with similar times is similarly doped (Greene is just a matter of time).
FloJo is Ben, and Jones and Jeter are Montgomery and Gatlin.